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- From: wolff@inf.fu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolff)
- Newsgroups: comp.editors
- Subject: Re: VI??? GROSS!
- Message-ID: <LYT86XN@math.fu-berlin.de>
- Date: 12 Nov 92 15:20:27 GMT
- References: <1992Oct28.162607.5613@sunvax.sun.ac.za> <1992Oct28.214551.21668@wixer.cactus.org>
- Sender: news@math.fu-berlin.de (Math Department)
- Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
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- rhodesia@wixer.cactus.org (Felix S. Gallo) writes:
-
- >9118543@sunvax.sun.ac.za writes:
- >>Is there no better editor for UNIX than VI?
- >>I mean... what happened to the good old full screen ones?
- >>Cheers
- >>Christ
-
- >psst. vi is full screen; also, the relative 'goodness' of an
- >editor depends on what you're trying to do. For instance, if
- >you're trying to have a completely integrated one-program
- >environment that reads news and everything, check out gnuemacs.
- >If you can't stand these fancy newfangled "tools", use cat.
- >If you live modally, vi is for you.
-
- Full screen: in some sense, vi is. But not screen-oriented. Changing
- or inserting text and not seeing the result unless a finish key is
- pressed is certainly not the behaviour I would wish from an interactive
- editor - it reminds a lot of old batch-time editing programs.
- Vi is a line editor with on-screen display. Actually, I wouldn't even
- call it a text editor since (according to some recent discussion in this
- group) it is not even capable of performing one of the most elementary
- text editing tasks: marking an arbitrary (!) block of text and by some
- means copying or moving it to another place.
- As a reaction to my moroseness about the apparent unavailability of a
- simple text editor for Unix and the monstrous complexity and slowness
- of the only widely spread alternative (emacs), I captured the source
- of a freely available editor and turned it into a safe, fast, and easy
- to use text editor. (I also announced it to this group some time ago.)
- It is available by ftp from ftp.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.50]:
- /pub/unix/editor/mined.tar.Z (108841 bytes)
- /pub/pc/editor/mined_pc.zip (114522 bytes)
-
- Thomas
- wolff@inf.fu-berlin.de
-