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- From: goldstein@carafe.enet.dec.com (Fred R. Goldstein)
- Subject: Re: SSCOP better than TCP?
- Message-ID: <1992Nov11.050334.19257@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>
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- Organization: Digital Equipment Corp., Littleton MA USA
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 05:01:11 GMT
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- In article <peterd.721416994@pjd.dev.cdx.mot.com>, peterd@pjd.dev.cdx.mot.com (Peter Desnoyers) writes...
- >Actually, some of Fred's earlier postings lead me to believe that he
- >thinks SSCOP is a good idea *because* of the end-to-end argument. (sorry
- >if I'm mis-representing you, Fred...)
-
- You're not!
-
- >The end-to-end argument doesn't say "never re-transmit at the link layer";
- >it says "retransmit at the link layer for efficiency, not reliability".
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- >The argument for SSCOP would then be that (1) ATM service will lose
- >many cells under congestion, and (2) SSCOP would be more efficient
- >than e.g. TCP at retransmission.
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- >I'm curious about the second point - I don't see why any protocol above
- >the AAL layer (with the same window strategy) would be any better than
- >another at dealing with cell loss.
-
- If you have one hop (end-to-end ATM), then there's no difference.
- Both layers (2 and 4) are effectively the same because they have the
- same span.
-
- If you have routers, though, then AAL (as a datalink) recovery takes
- place over one hop, while TCP recovery takes place over multiple hops,
- some of which may be 9600 bps modems, etc. Efficiency is simply a
- matter of locality -- don't tell the whole path that one hop is lossy.
- This helps IF one hop is particularly lossy. Will ATM be lossy?
- That depends!
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- Fred R. Goldstein goldstein@carafe.tay2.dec.com
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