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- From: jmorriso@ee.ubc.ca (John Paul Morrison)
- Subject: Re: Transit Levy on BC-Hydro Bills
- Message-ID: <1992Nov11.085301.2607@ee.ubc.ca>
- Organization: University of BC, Electrical Engineering
- References: <L7TVTB1w164w@ham.almanac.bc.ca> <1992Nov8.061620.6455@ee.ubc.ca> <1dp37mINNf1c@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>
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- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 08:53:01 GMT
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- In article <1dp37mINNf1c@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> dkmiller@unixg.ubc.ca (Derek K. Miller) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov8.061620.6455@ee.ubc.ca> jmorriso@ee.ubc.ca (John Paul Morrison) writes:
- >>Let's make a deal: I'll agree to pay the full share of road costs for
- >>my driving, if transit users pay for the full cost of their transit
- >>use. I won't face having to pay any more money though, because gasoline
- >>taxes make up for at least 50% of the price of gas, and gas taxes already
- >>raise exorbitant amounts of revenue for the government.
- >>
- >
- >Sure. Provided that we can somehow factor into the cost accouning the
- >indirect environmental costs of the fossil fuels you burn, pollutants
- >you produce, and those of the mining a manufacturing for your car
- >(and those of the buses too, of course).
- >
-
- Any action has a COST and a BENEFIT.
-
- Burning fossil fuels has a cost (in real $$) that can be measured
- ie. health costs, the cost of the fuel itself, the risk of permanent
- damage to the environment, where the probability can be estimated, and
- the risk discounted.
-
- Burning fossil fuels has benefits (in reall $$) in economic activity and
- growth.
-
- These costs and benefits can be estimated and with reasonable safety
- margins, a pollution tax can levied to recover that cost of actual and
- potential damage.
-
- A pollution tax (as is advocated by many leading economists) gives a cost
- that the market can understand, and react to. Fixed taxes and regulations
- provide no incentive to eliminate pollution etc. A pollution tax creates
- an incentive people can understand in real terms, so if people reduce
- pollution, they are rewarded by lower taxes. It provides a carrot and stick.
-
- There is a problem with creating too high or too low a pollution tax.
- A too high pollution tax overestimates the risk associated with pollution.
- We live with risk every day, and an exaggerated pollution tax would
- result in a very small (marginal) gain in improving the environment,
- and would sacrifice a lot of growth and economic benefit.
- Too low a pollution tax would underestimate the cost of pollution
- and would make the benefit from economic growth overvalued. If
- economic growth gets overvalued, people will rush to develop things, and
- then cause a very expensive problem in the future.
-
- >Ah yes, just let people pay for only those things they use. That wayu,
- >no one will ever change.
-
- People don't have to change for the sake of change. If you give people
- the right incentives, people will automatically act to take advantage
- of those incentives, and run away form disinsentives. The market is
- is an efficient means of doing this, it is like water rolling down hill.
- >
- > :=:=> Derek K. Miller dkmiller@unixg.ubc.ca
- > Researcher, Alma Mater Society thegrodd@tz.ucs.sfu.ca
- > University of British Columbia, Canada
- >
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