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- From: crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford)
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- Subject: Re: How could you ever trust?
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- Date: 12 Nov 92 16:29:17 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov12.062756.7505@access.usask.ca> lat22@jester.usask.ca (T'Keela Mahkin Birr) writes:
-
- >If you are heavy (I mean VERY, size 24 or so) and men are not
- >interested in you because of your weight: how can you ever
- >trust in a man if you lost weight, became what most men want
- >(aiee duck the flames on that one):), and went out with a man?
- >Oh sure, he might say, "I'd love you just as much if you looked
- >different", but where was he when you were large? It's very
- >perplexing..to go from an obese woman who can't get a date to
- >a thin woman who is so bloody cynical she can't get a date.
-
- Good question.
-
- For me, I think the big key has been *why* I've lost weight in the past.
- Am I losing weight to please hypothetical men who might then fall in love
- with me? (I've done that.) Am I losing weight to please family members
- and hopefully get them to love me in the way I think they should? (I've
- done that too.) Am I losing weight to get approval from the general
- public? (Ditto.)
-
- In each of these cases, I've had really mixed feelings when I've lost the
- weight -- and I've been surprised at the anger that has surfaced. On the
- one hand, I'm losing weight to get something from someone else -- but at
- the same time, I'm very ambivalent about it. What inevitably surfaces is
- disappointment at not getting exactly what I thought I would (men beating
- down my door, unconditional love and approval from parents, favorable
- attention from an adoring public), and anger at all these people for
- _requiring_ it of me. I get dual thoughts: "I want your unconditional
- love" vs. "Suck eggs and die, and who needs you anyway? Who gave you the
- right to put me through this?"
-
- It wasn't until I got to the bottom of this stuff, and the hurt underneath
- it, that I was able to stop dieting and obsessing. Losing weight for
- _any_ reason other than that it's something you want to do for yourself
- and no one else is going to be a real mixed bag and is probably doomed to
- failure. There's a lot to be said for learning to like yourself no matter
- what size you are (which is why I'm so enjoying this group). Once an
- individual gets to that point, I think he or she is much better able to
- look at the weight-loss thing in a healthful way and make better decisions
- about how (and if) one wants to do it.
-
- I've finally decided, as I think I've mentioned, to just stop overeating.
- I do want to lose weight, mostly for the sake of my feet and energy level.
- But I don't long anymore to achieve some weird societal ideal, and I don't
- have delusions that body size is going to affect the relationships in my
- life in any way that matters to me.
-
- One thing really hit me recently ... I'll be seeing my dad over
- Thanksgiving. In the past, I would diet frantically before seeing him --
- or else binge compulsively. He has always had a major thing about weight,
- and we have a painful history over that issue.
-
- It hit me yesterday that I haven't even considered what my dad will think
- about my weight this year. It honestly didn't cross my mind one way or
- the other. I don't want to discuss it with him, and will tell him so if
- he brings it up, but aside from that I have absolutely no agenda. His
- problem with overweight is really and truly *his* problem. Not mine.
-
- Amazing! And wonderful!
-
-
-
- --
- The trick of reason is to get the imagination to seize the actual world --
- if only from time to time. -- Annie Dillard, "An American Childhood"
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