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- From: crago_l@cubldr.colorado.edu
- Subject: Re: exit
- Message-ID: <1992Nov5.152406.1@cubldr.colorado.edu>
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- Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:24:06 GMT
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- In article <l79p8m-@lynx.unm.edu>, rkruger@hydra.unm.edu (robert c krugerttr) writes:
- > In article <1992Oct30.145526.1@cubldr.colorado.edu> crago_l@cubldr.colorado.edu writes:
- >>
- >>I, for one, would like to see you re-post. Maybe it will be something I can
- >>reply to, or maybe not. But I am upset that YOU'RE upset. I hope that says
- >>to you that there really is sympathy and fellow-feeling out here on the net.
- >>
- >>Regards, Lou
- >
- > Ok, Lou, here goes:
- >
- > Repost of my situation with Amy who's last name shall remain unknown.
- >
- Approximately 10 months ago I came home for xmas break, During my stay I met
- During our meetings, she repeatedly stated, 'I want to just be
- > friends,' so much so that it seemed like she was desiring the opposite. As
-
- Isn't it a common fallacy, which has been identified, that a woman means
- yes when she says no? I don't see how you got the logic for saying
- that she repeatedly stated something, so you ASSUMED she was desiring
- the opposite!
- (stuff deleted)
-
- I was over at her apt. Dialogue got us to the
- > point where I gave her a very enjoyable, sensual massage. She enjoyed it
- > so much that I'd imagine it freaked her out. IMHO she has always considered
- > me a dork, and to be attracted to a dork is disgusting to her. 1/2 week passes
- me a dork and to be attracted to a dork is humiliating to her
- >
-
- (stuff deleted)
- >
- > Robert
- >
- >
- Robert, I'm glad you reposted. I don't know a heck of a lot about psychology
- but I do recognize a couple of loud and clear things in the story you've
- told . There is a LOT of anger. It's anger at others (people on the Net, and
- also at Amy). But behind that there is a lot of anger at YOURSELF. I base
- that on the fact that at least twice in the post you referred to yourself
- as a Dork or was it Nurd? And you think (projecting your own feelings
- perhaps) that Amy would be humiliated if she felt attraction toward you.
-
- It seems to me that that's where you need to start. IMHO if you feel
- self-loathing and anger, then it's not going to work foryou with ANY
- woman, not just Amy. It sounds like you're so pissed at yourself for
- being less than Some Part of You deems ideal, that your're hair-trigger
- defensive. Anything Amy does that ties into the self-hate/anger
- syndrome sets you off. You can't just relax and let things go by, you
- get angrier and angrier. It would make sense, then, that she feels
- "scared" of you, because she's picking up not just the fact that you
- want to see her, but that terrific rage and anger.
-
- I hope this helps identify some areas of the problem. What to do about it
- is outside my scope -- probably ask a counselor. If you're unhappy
- with, for example, your appearance, you can always take steps to improve
- it -- you don't have to just sit there and hate yourself. And then hate
- others for the same reason.
-
- Anyway, I think you've been brave to air your situation on the net,
- and I hope the responses you've gotten will both help and be of
- some cheer. Good luck to you.
-
- Regards, Lou
-
-