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- From: rhw@att.com (Robert Wentworth)
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- Subject: Re: Angry Parents
- Message-ID: <1992Nov5.205803.16319@cbnewsi.cb.att.com>
- Date: 5 Nov 92 20:58:03 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov4.210829.8429@iscsvax.uni.edu> mccall3080@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
- >In article <Bx3Fov.Ezn@tct.com>, lenore@tct.com (Lenore Cook) writes:
- >> I have posted here a few times and have received lots
- >> of help, so here goes again.
- >>
- >> As I have said before, my husband and I are facing
- >> divorce. Because of the current situation, we have
- >> decided it is time for a separation. I will be
- >> moving out this month. Now the problem....
- >>
- >> I have never shared our problems with my parents. I
- >> share the positive stuff, but chose to keep the
- >> negative stuff to myself. This is a new pattern for
- >> me. I used to tell them everything and it seems
- >> that they would eventually use it against me.
- >> Anyway, I did finally call them and tell them we
- >> were separating. That was last weekend. This weekend
- >> I had a conversation with my mother and she is
- >> VERY angry with me - for just dumping this on her
- >> and not ever letting her know there was a problem.
- >>
- >> I have a hard time making decisions and sticking by
- >> them, because I have always let other people influence
- >> me...how will they feel, how will they react etc...
- >> I felt good about my decision to keep my problems
- >> to myself, but now I don't feel so good. I feel like
- >> a little kid again who can't ever do the right
- >> thing. I'd like some feedback from you out there
- >> Do we ever grow up? (I'm 32 by the way, so it's
- >> not like I'm a child).
- >>
- >> I anxiously await your replies.
- >
- >
- >This is my advice. You can use it or not. Right now you are at a point that
- >anything said or done is going to affect you more than they normally would.
- >You are sensitive and vulnerable, but unfortunately some people don't pick up on
- >it. Your mother's reaction is probably very nromal. She is a parent and
- >probably hopes that her children will come to her when they need help. She
- >might feel betrayed that you didn't trust her with this information. Her anger
- >will proabably be temporary. She WANTS to be there for you and that's what's
- >important.
-
- Lenore, I read the situation differently. From what you say it's not clear
- whether your mother genuinely wants to help, or whether she can effectively
- do so even if she wants to. We don't know the detailed history, but in this
- instance, Lenore, your mother is not being helpful. She's adding an
- additional burden of guilt to a time that is burdened enough. You imply
- that in your view past attempts to share problems with her resulted in more
- trouble for you in the long run. If this is really a pattern, you have a
- right to be cautious with her, to protect yourself by taking care of
- yourself as you see fit and trusting your own judgement as to what to tell
- her.
-
- >As a daughter and as someone who is experiencing traumatic events, you want to
- >keep everything to yourself--no matter how much it hurts. You want to maintain
- >control. That behavior is destructive though. It is OK to reach to people.
- >Believe it or not, they want to help. Don't let this get you down too much
- >though. You did what you could to get through the tough times. It isn't going
- >to do you any good to beat yourself up about it. Just know now, when you need
- >the help the most, your mother is there for you and wants to do this. Not all
- >daughters are so lucky.
- >
- >Melissa
-
- Yes, it is dangerous to hold too much inside, and yes, it is good when
- appropriate to reach out to others for help. But that doesn't mean that
- it's good to reach out for help to people who will hurt you.
-
- I know what it's like to be influenced by others' feelings and expectations.
- My own sense of what I want and what is right for me is quiet enough that I
- have to deliberately shun the opinions of those who voice their feelings too
- strongly, so that I'll have the space to find my own answers. It's hard,
- but I think it's necessary if one is to have a life of one's own.
-
- With your mother you are in a position where you have to continue to think
- about what it is you need and look after your own interests. Maybe you can
- get some support from her to help you through this, maybe you can't. You
- might try to tell her what you need from her, very clearly. Maybe something
- like:
-
- Mother, I have a hard time hearing my own thoughts and feelings
- about things if I talk to you about them too much. So I need to
- keep some things to myself. I'm not "dumping" this on you. It's
- not your problem or your responsibility to handle my marriage. It's
- mine, and I'm doing the best I can. I'm telling you about it now
- because this is very hard for me and I could use your love,
- encouragement, and support.
-
- There's probably more to be said, but I may be wandering off the mark of how
- things are for you. The bottom line is that you've been responsibly trying
- to take care of yourself, and you need to continue to do that even through
- this interaction with your mother. If you can't depend on her, don't.
- Ask her for what you want (e.g., support rather than anger) and do your
- best to accept that it may or may not be forthcoming.
-
- As to when we grow up: I suspect never. At least, not completely. Old
- people still have children inside them, still feel like children especially
- in relation to their parents. But parts of us grow up gradually, one step
- at a time. That's the way life is, and it's okay...
-
- Good luck,
- Bob
-