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- From: asamonte@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu (Just some loser...)
- Subject: Re: Bots, WarBots, Fun?
- Message-ID: <1992Nov10.023612.174931@zeus.calpoly.edu>
- Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu
- Organization: Nothing worth mentioning...
- References: <1992Nov7.023211.6142@ra.oc.com> <1992Nov9.115758.15047@ugle.unit.no>
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:36:12 GMT
- Lines: 62
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- gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) was telling me...
- >Herman H. Fredriksson (herm@merlin.etsu.edu) wrote:
- >: In article <1992Nov6.084134.17493@ugle.unit.no> gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) writes:
- >: >> I still feel alt.irc.bot would be useful (...)
- >: NOT.
- >I guess that is what we are discussing, or what?
- >: > [..people message this dude becos they want to have a whizbang bot too..]
- >Do you know how annoying that is?
- >: > Also, programming techniques could be shared, so that all bots would be
- >: Lame, weenie bots which give people a op (oh w0w) can be share/copied.
- >I said PROGRAMMING TEXHNIQUES, and giving people an op can be a bit more than
- >a single /on -join Gard mode $C +o $0
- > As an example, I have on Glurg this one:
-
- [script deleted]
-
- It's basically the same thing. It just checks user@host and name...BFD.
-
- >This is not just an op, but an ensurement that only I will have my Nick - at
- >least on channel #24892. This will prevent abuse of Glurg's mode commands.
-
- It's just an op.
-
- >Also, earlier on, Glurg walked freely around on different channels commenting
- >things, responding to whatever the people said, and in most cases, it would
- >take quite a while or a /whois Glurg to discover that he was a bot. Now, that
- >need a little more programming technique than a /on join Gard mode $C +o $0
-
- Not much more. /on public "*keyphrase" Oh joy.
-
- >: >optimized accordingly, and we could have fewer bots because bot programmers
- >:
- >: Oh my god, the word bot, and optimized in the same sentence.
- >
- >Surprised by that? Optimizing could be like... having an assigned variable
- >containing all the channels the bot is supposed to visit. and than just move
- >a pointer every time he's supposed to visit a new channel, rather than having
- >24892 on timer statements.
-
- Why they hell would you have a bot 'visit' channels? Why not just have
- it on all the channels at once?
-
- >:
- >: >could agree to have only ONE bot with that and that function, and so on,
- >: There is no agreement. That is why we have bot wars.
- >
- >Of course there is no agreement - now. That is because the bot programmers
- >don't have a forum in which they can get the agreement. Whilst on IRC, they
- >are more interrested in debugging their bot or talking social stuff with
- >others. A newsgroup like alt.irc.bots would work fine for that.
-
- Hardly. Ok...you tell me how to resolve this problem, and then maybe
- it will work. Who would run this one bot? EVERYONE would want to run
- it so they can say it's their bot. If someone else runs it it's no fun.
- Why do you think so many people have them instead of sharing them?
-
- MsgServ was the original msg bot, and now with the password protected NoteServ
- people still use the excuse of 'getting messages' for justification for
- having a bot. WHen NoteServ already serves that purpose.
-
- -Alex
-
-