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- From: evansmp@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans)
- Subject: Re: Preventing Sexual Harassment?
- Message-ID: <1992Nov9.082435.10349@aston.ac.uk>
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- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 08:24:35 GMT
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- martelli@cadlab.sublink.org (Alex Martelli) writes:
- : jaw@owlnet.rice.edu (Joseph A. Watters) writes:
- : ...
- : :It is policy because it is the law regarding sexual harassment, not
- : :harassment in general. The unwelcome behavior must be of a sexual
- : :nature. In the case of sexual harassment complaints, the supervisor is
- :
- : I think you're missing a crucial point. This discussion, we should
- : recall, started about the alleged "sexual harassment" nature of what a
- : user chooses to display on hir windowed-screen background. If such
- : choices, which are so obviously in the nature of free-speech
- : expressions, are to be labeled "sexual harassment" under the "hostile
- : environment" doctrine, then the "must be of a sexual nature" clause
- : which you take as a given (and would make sense!) is NOT guaranteed AT
- : ALL.
- :
- : If display of a scantily clad female body is "of a sexual nature",
- : then why not the display of a scantily clad young male nailed to a
- : cross and wearing a cross of thorns? Thus, no crucifixes allowed,
- : I presume. Similarly for other religious depictions, such as naked
- : Ishtar descending to Hell, Botticelli's Venus, Bosch's Inferno (LOTS
- : of nudity there!), and so on and so forth.
-
- Are there organised, loud, legal and powerful preasure groups trying to
- outlaw the examples you give.
- :
- : And why stop at graphics? Isn't wearing a pink T-shirt emblazoned with
- : "GAY, AND PROUD OF IT!" a similarly "sexual nature" behavior?
- : Homophobes would certainly feel it unwelcome and hostile. And what if
- : the message is "MY BODY, MY CHOICE!"? And the pink-shirt example which
- : you were responding to is NOT as silly as you seem to imagine: a male's
- : wearing pink, even without the accompanying words, IS taken (in certain
- : circles) as a signal of out-of-the-closet homosexuality, a "sexual
- : nature" message not that much different from the gay-liberation one
- : mentioned above, or from displaying a Mapplethorpe photo on your
- : office's wall, or on your workstation screen's background...
- :
- : The threshold, in my humble opinion, was crossed when it was conceded
- : that a "free expression"-nature act, such as the choice of what to
- : wear or what to display in one's personal working environment, was
- : in any way equivalent to "harassing" somebody else sexually, with
- : unwelcome sexual advances. This way bleakest censorship, dress codes,
- : and tiranny lay...
-
- The problem is as you say that the line already has been crossed, and those
- who created the situation are going to do their best to uphold it.
- (no matter what sort of daft situations it will lead to)
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