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- From: sippy+@CS.CMU.EDU (Jay Sipelstein)
- Subject: Re: Zeno
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- Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:57:40 GMT
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- Zeno was lots more clever than people now give him credit. Zeno
- really had four separate paradoxes. Each of these makes a different
- assumption about the "granularity" of space and time. The walk across
- the room paradox makes the assumption that time has a smallest
- subdivision (the time to make a step) and that space has no smallest
- division (you may make smaller and smaller steps). The paradox is intended
- to show that this makes no sense. The three others paradoxes each treat the
- other cases of "quantized" and "non-quantized" space and time. Taken
- together, these paradoxes were intended to show that the Greeks
- really didn't understand these basic issues of the universe. More
- precisely, they were intended as a rebuke to the Pythagoreans who
- had ridiculed Zeno's teacher Parmenides' teachings. Zeno wanted to
- show that although Parmenides' ideas may have been strange, the
- common wisdom was just as problematic.
-
- In article <1992Oct8.000340.1@opie.bgsu.edu>, bc205cs@opie.bgsu.edu writes:
- >Ok. I don't read this newsgroup, but I know that if anyone can help me, it
- >will ne you guys. If this problem has already been addressed in this
- >newsgroup, go ahead and flame me, but please give me some kind of answer.
- >
- >Here's the problem: My Calculus II professer was discussing the sum of the
- >infinite series 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8, and so on. He compared this to a famous
- >problem of Zeno's, in which zeno said that if you are trying to get from point
- >A to point B, and you go half of the remaining distance with each step, you
- >will never make it to point B. This seems like common sense, because with
- >every step, you are not allowed to go more than half of the remaining distance.
- >
- >Well, my professor showed us that the sum of this as the number of steps
- >approaches infinity is 1 -- To which my answer was, Great: you have to walk
- >_forever_ to make it to point B. Then he explained, 'Let's say that you can
- >move 1 unit per minute. The first step will take 1/2 minute, the next will
- >take 1/4 minute, and so on. So, it will take 1 minute to get from point A to
- >point B!'
-
- Your teacher violated the hypothesis that time is not infinitely divisible.
- You should point him at the appropriate paradox (which I unfortunately
- can't recall at the moment).
-
- -- Jay Sipelstein
- sipelstein@cs.cmu.edu
-