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- From: israel@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert B. Israel)
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- Subject: Re: Irrational?
- Date: 9 Oct 92 08:12:45 GMT
- Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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- In <1aqoe7INN5r7@agate.berkeley.edu> chrisman@wheatena.berkeley.edu (chrisman) w
- rites:
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- >Does anybody know if the common-use word "irrational" (meaning
- >nonsensical) is actually derived from the mathematical term?
-
-
- In <9210071709.hoey@aic.nrl.navy.mil> hoey@AIC.NRL.Navy.Mil (Dan Hoey) writes:
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- >The dictionary (I peeked) says that the Latin word _ratio_ means
- >reason, computation, or reasoning, from which we get the words ratio
- >and reason. I believe that long division was a canonical example of
- >computation, from which come the words having to do with division, and
- >the rest of the words deal with thought process
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- >So irrational numbers are numbers you can't get by dividing integers,
- >while irrational people are the ones who can't do the division.
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- >Dan Hoey
- >Hoey@AIC.NRL.Navy.Mil
-
- Well, not quite. As you say, "ratio" is a Latin word. The literal
- meaning is "calculation", and using it figuratively you get
- "reason" and "reasoning". BUT this "calculation" would
- originally refer to something more on the level of 2+2=4, rather
- than more modern meanings of "ratio" - neither the Greek ratio of
- geometric quantities, nor long division (which is a completely different
- subject, and was considered extremely difficult before the development
- of hindu-arabic notation).
-
- BTW, according to Cajori's History of Mathematics, the first use
- of the words "rational" and "irrational" in their modern mathematical
- sense was by Cassiodorius (6th century). This would be much
- later than the non-mathematical meanings.
-
- I'm cross-posting this to sci.classics, where we may hear from people
- who actually know something about word origins.
-
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