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- From: cmenzel@tamsun.tamu.edu (Chris Menzel)
- Subject: Re: The Mathematical Universe
- Message-ID: <1992Oct13.213159.23649@tamsun.tamu.edu>
- Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
- References: <1992Oct9.162417.18298@guinness.idbsu.edu> <1992Oct9.203658.25387@tamsun.tamu.edu> <1992Oct13.191930.17813@guinness.idbsu.edu>
- Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:31:59 GMT
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- In article <1992Oct13.191930.17813@guinness.idbsu.edu> holmes@opal.idbsu.edu (Randall Holmes) writes:
- >Michael Hand writes:
- >> ...[T]here is little to conclude except that any feature of an account
- >> that identifies 3 with a set is a superfluous one -- and that therefore
- >> 3, and its fellow numbers, could not be sets at all.
- >>
- >> [from "What Numbers Could Not Be"]
- >>_______________________________________________________________________
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- >>Michael Hand phone (409)845-5660, fax (409)845-0458
- >>Dept of Philosophy, Texas A&M Univ, College Station TX 77843-4237 U.S.A.
- >
- >Au contraire, it is obvious which set the cardinal number 3 is. It is
- >the set of all sets with three elements (this _can_ be defined in a
- >non-circular manner, by the way).
-
- Surely it is obvious that this set is *not* the cardinal number 3,
- since otherwise, by extensionality, we get a different number 3
- whenever something begins or ceases to exist--unless you want to say
- that only pure sets (or at least sets of eternal objects) are elements
- of the number 3, but that would introduce just the sort of
- arbitrariness that gives Benacerraf's argument its bite.
-
- Nonetheless, there *is* something very natural about the set you
- identify with 3; maybe because it is the *extension* of a much more
- plausible candidate (at least for the friends of intensionality),
- viz., the *property* that all 3-membered sets have in common...
-
- >The opinions expressed | --Sincerely,
- >above are not the "official" | M. Randall Holmes
- >opinions of any person | Math. Dept., Boise State Univ.
- >or institution. | holmes@opal.idbsu.edu
-
- --Chris Menzel
- Department of Philosophy
- Texas A&M University
-