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- From: cme@ellisun.sw.stratus.com (Carl Ellison)
- Newsgroups: sci.crypt
- Subject: Re: RSA outside the US
- Message-ID: <7136@transfer.stratus.com>
- Date: 12 Oct 92 16:00:56 GMT
- References: <1992Oct9.233126.10429@uoft02.utoledo.edu>
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- In article <1992Oct9.233126.10429@uoft02.utoledo.edu> jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner) writes:
- > 1. RSA is pretty much a standard in Europe.
- > 2. it is illegal to export RSA stuff from the US.
-
- > this is just silly.
-
- Isn't it.......
-
- >am i reading this right? if it's true why is export of encryption
- >schemes so much of a problem? apparently they're already out there.
-
-
- The argument (only slightly rephrased by me from what I read) given by
- Bobby Inman (ex-head of the NSA) was that:
-
- 1. it's important to thwart crypto development in the private sector
- as much as possible;
-
- 2. all we have control over is the US and in particular US exports --
- so that's what we're trying to control;
-
- 3. the US is #1 in crypto research [they're working to make that not
- true, of course, assuming it ever was] and #1 in computer manufacturing
- [that's slipping, too -- never was true in crypto hardware, I believe
- (excepting military contracts)];
-
- 4. good crypto is like an atom bomb -- could make a major power of an
- otherwise minor power -- needs to be suppressed -- mustn't be in the hands
- of private citizens.
-
-
- In other words (mine), the technology is out there but the US economy, if
- it were allowed to produce good crypto in volume (eg., spurred on by
- international markets), would flood the world with good crypto -- making it
- likely that a lazy lawbreaker would be able to use good crypto and
- therefore defeat eavesdropping. The FBI is using roughly the same argument
- for internal controls and demands for plaintext-tapping ports.
-
-
- Nobody has argued against the idea that big time drug dealers can afford
- good crypto equipment (eg., scrambler phones from Switzerland) -- but what
- about the little folks -- high school students trying to buy a pound of pot
- to sell to their friends? Those are the real targets of this
- administration -- along with people carrying large amounts of cash, of
- course. For all we know, the big time drug dealers are campaign
- contributors.... :-(
-
-
- What I want to know is how the candidates stand on this issue. It's got a
- small enough interest group that the debates will probably skip over it.
- I'd expect Bush to keep up being DCI with all private citizens as the
- potential enemy (who me? paranoid?). I'd worry a little about Perot --
- given his habit of hiring private investigators. I haven't heard from
- Clinton anything to allow me to predict.
-
- Does anyone else have a feel for this?
-