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Path: sparky!uunet!stanford.edu!bu.edu!olivea!sgigate!sgiblab!swrinde!gatech!paladin.american.edu!auvm!UCSBUXA.BITNET!LB05GATE From: LB05GATE@UCSBUXA.BITNET ((Rick Gates)) Newsgroups: bit.listserv.cwis-l Subject: October Hunt Results Message-ID: <9210152111.AA13517@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu> Date: 15 Oct 92 21:11:19 GMT Sender: "Campus-Wide Information Systems" <CWIS-L@WUVMD.BITNET> Lines: 449 Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU Comments: To: cwis-l@wuvmd.bitnet *************************************************************** * * * RESULTS OF THE OCTOBER 92 INTERNET HUNT * * * * (warning: long message, feel free to pound the delete key) * *************************************************************** Here it is, at long last, the results of the second monthly Hunt. (Turnaround time would have been much faster, but I've been out conferencing myself to death.) And the winner is... Peter Scott Manager of Small Systems Univ. of Saskatchewan Libraries ...who scored a perfect 46 points in an entry dated Oct 1, 4:43 CST. Congratulations Peter! HUNT STATISTICS --------------- We had a few more players this time around. Now we're up to 19 entries, and about 50 - 60 assorted comments. POINTS OF INTEREST ------------------ It was clear that many people have latched on to Scott Yanoff's burgeoning list of sources. This can be accessed in several ways. Finger yanoff@csd4.csd.uwm.edu for some of them. A couple of good gopher sites (other than Mom gopher in Minnesota, of course), are the MSEN gopher maintained by Ed Vielmetti; and the Univ. of South Carolina, Dept. of Math gopher maintained by Brygg Ullmer. Both good starting points for information. Finally, you can also get a lot of information on the HyTelnet system at the University of Saskatchewan, (telnet access.usask.ca), maintained by this months winner! There are loads of other good services, but these are all I have room for this month. We got the first answer that used a Panda. Panda is an information service out of the University of Iowa that's based on gopher. See question number 10. The question on where to find land use maps (# 6), was not as difficult as I had expected. I was interested in the Global Land Information System which was tough to find, and completely overlooked the USGS Earth Science Data Service which answers the question. The question on where an Argentine user could telnet to get gopher access turned out to be a little tougher than expected. Those who found a telnettable (?) gopher server in South America got full credit (based on a strict interpretation of the question). The answers were much better this time around. Almost everyone remembered that an address alone is not much help if the data is buried deep inside some arcane directory structure. Good job by all. I had fun (and so did others), with the extra credit question. I'll try to scrape something up for November as well. THE USUAL --------- If any players would like to see their individual scores, please feel free to drop me a line. I'm totally open to suggestions. Some suggestions have already been incorporated, others are still being debated. I will not post any answer that utilizes an access method that is licensed to a particular subset of Net users. Anyone who has cruised the Net at any length has discovered licensed resources that are accessible to anyone. I will not expose those resources to further unlicensed access. For example, you will not see any mention of access to dictionaries, as I am currently unaware of any in the public domain. Thanks to all who contributed comments, and special thanks to the players! Thanks to you, we're learning more every month. THE HUNT RESULTS ---------------- 1. (1) Where can I get a copy of the shareware package pkzip? The Winner's Answer ------------------- ftp oak.oakland.edu cd pub/msdos/zip pkz110eu.exe Other Answers ------------- (Rick: There were many answers to this question. One of the primary methods used for finding sites to ftp the files was by searching archie, as explained here:) Telnet to archie.rutgers.edu (128.6.18.15) Login: archie prog PKZIP (search for PKZIP) For a specific site, (...or here) USC-Math Gopher service Gopher at bigcheese.math.scarolina.edu Computer Info/FTP site data and indices/FTP searches(UMN)/ Search FTP Sites (Archie)/Substring search search for "pkzip" 2. (5) What's the elevation of Baldwinville, Massachusetts? The Winner's Answer ------------------- Telnet to 141.212.99.9 3000 Type Baldwinville to receive: 0 Baldwinville 1 25027 Worcester 2 MA Massachusetts 3 US United States F 45 Populated place L 42 36 30 N 72 04 35 W P 1703 E 867 Z 01436 Answer = 867 Other Answers ------------- (Rick: Best answer! A client at Minnesota. Thanks to Dennis Boone) Gopher to University of Minnesota. Select Libraries. Select Reference Works. Select U.S. Geographic Names Database. Select Search... and enter the name of the city. 3. (4) Where can I find copies of the newly released Soviet archives? The Winner's Answer ------------------- ftp ftp.dra.com cd pub/loc get README for list of archives Other Answers ------------- Anonymous FTP to seq1.loc.gov subdirectories pub/soviet.archive/text.english get README file in /soviet.archive/ for description of each file Anonymous FTP to sunsite.unc.edu subdirectories pub/docs/russia/english.txt get README file in /russia/ for description of each file USC-Math Gopher service. Gopher at bigcheese.math.scarolina.edu Multitopic Info/Misc/Soviet Archives 4. (7) I'm spending a semester in Europe next year. My math professor tells me that there's a network over there that mathematicians use called Euromath. I'd really like to find any information I can, particularly the cost, if any. (Rick: Getting to a gopher in Sweden or Denmark provided the best answers.) The Winner's Answer ------------------- telnet consultant.micro.umn.edu select Other gophers select Europe select Swedish University Network select Denmark select Euromath gopher server select Euromath The subscription rate for 1992-1993 is 1500 ECU if your subscription reaches EMT by December 31, 1992. The rate for 1993 will be 2000 ECU. These rates apply only to mathematical institutes. Subscription to later EUROMATH upgrades (>= 1994) will be in the order of 500 ECU. Other Answers ------------- COSINE: the COSINE Network's Central Information Service for Europe Telnet to concise.funet.fi login: concise 5. (3) Where can I get copies of the Electronic Frontier Foundation's newsletter, the EFFector Online? The Winner's Answer ------------------- Telnet gopher.unt.edu select Newsletters and journals select Computing select EFF select Effector Then select the issue you wish to read or have mailed to you Other Answers ------------- copies of EFFector Online are also available on Usenet list comp.org.eff.news Anonymous ftp to kragar.eff.org The issues of effector online are in directory /pub/EFF/newsletters Filename format is effector<vol>.<issue> anonymous ftp to wuarchive.wustl.edu cd /doc/policy/EFF the files are listed as: effector*.** for effector (the on-line stuff) effnews*.** is for newsletter. 6. (8) I'm looking for land use maps of the United States, and I heard somewhere that I can use a network resource to find out what's available, and how to order them. What is this resource? (Rick: Most folks found the USGS Earth Science Data Service, but the Global Land Information System is a lot slicker. Full credit for both answers though.) The Winner's Answer ------------------- Global Land Information System Telnet glis.cr.usgs.gov Login: guest Other Answers ------------- USC-Math Gopher service. Gopher at bigcheese.math.scarolina.edu Multitopic/Science-Technology/Geography/USGS Earth Science Data Service search for "land use map" telnet to quake.think.com login as wais select source USGS_Earth_Science_Data_Directory (located at ridgisd.er.usgs.gov) keyword search for maps of interest 7. (4) I have a friend that lives in Argentina. I was telling her about Gopher. She's interested in setting up a gopher server at her university. Are there any gophers in that part of the world that she can telnet to and see what it looks like? (Rick: What I was after here was a local gopher that provided telnet access. The 'friend' could telnet back to the US to get a gopher, and then back to South America, but response time is much better with a more local telnet. Full credit to those that got South American telnettable (?) gophers.) The Winner's Answer ------------------- Pontificia Universidad Catolica de Chile telnet tolten.puc.cl login: gopher Other Answers ------------- ECUANET, Ecuador telnet ecnet.ec login as 'gopher' -telnet access.usask.ca LOGIN: hytelnet Choose Other Telnet accessible resources >From that menu choose Distributed File Server Systems >From that menu choose Internet Gopher Services Answer from that menu TOLTEN.PUC.CL has a gopher, this is the Pontificia Universidad Catolica de Chile. telnet to consultant.micro.umn.edu login as gopher select Other Gopher Servers select South America 8. (5) Where can I find general information on what's happening with the US stock market? The more up-to-date, the better! (Rick: A common answer was USA Today Headline Business News. I judged a2i.rahul.net a better answer because it was more up-to-date, and had lots of extras.) The Winner's Answer ------------------- Telnet a2i.rahul.net login: guest select m Market report extract: 1. NORMAL SUN QUOTESERVER STOCK DUMP for 09/30/92 Symbol Type Price High Low Volume Last AA (stock) 66.25 66.375 65.50 148,500 65.625 AALR (stock) 4.25 4.25 3.75 6,200 4.25 AAPL (stock) 45.125 45.50 44.50 893,300 44.875 Other Answers ------------- Telnet to bolero.rahul.net and login id as guest choose 'm' for market report, and keep hitting return until the main market menu comes up and choose away. On the Cleveland Free-Net: telnet to freenet-in-a.cwru.edu login as a visitor select Business & Industrial Park select USA Today: Headline Business News 9. (4) I'm doing a paper for a comparative religions course. Is there anyway to do a keyword search on the bible? (Rick: Lot's of different sources out there. FTP of full text did not get full credit.) The Winner's Answer ------------------- Telnet to quake.think.com login: wais Select Bible Use "w" for selecting keyword Other Answers ------------- USC-Math Gopher service. Gopher at bigcheese.math.scarolina.edu Multitopic/Religion/[Bible/Koran/Book of Mormon] Dartmouth College: telnet to LIB.DARTMOUTH.EDU use SELECT FILE BIBLE command to start Telnet to info.rutgers.edu Do the following menu-sequence: Library -> Reference -> Religion -> Bible This will let you search for keywords & passages in the King James Bible. Telnet to info.cern.ch (World Wide Web). Select Other Subjects from the menu. Press <enter> twice to reach the category Religions. Select Bible (38). Now enter any keyword or keywords desired. 10. (4) Where can I find 1990 US Census data? The Winner's Answer ------------------- telnet una.hh.lib.umich.edu login: gopher select Social Science Data select 1990 Census Other Answers ------------- Project Gutenberg: anonymous ftp to mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu cd etext/etext92 files: uscen901.xxx uscen902.xxx Telnet to hermes.merit.edu. At the host prompt, type um-ulibrary. Type gopher at the login prompt. Select 4. Social Science Data, Then select 1. 1990 Census. Explore for data desired. telnet panda.uiowa.edu at main menu choose Online Information Sources then 6 (online library) then 1 (Electronic Books) then 3 (By title) then 2 (1990 USA Census Information) and go for it! Extra credit question: 11. (1) What's Rick Gates' favorite sport? The Winner's Answer ------------------- finger lb05gate@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu Login name: lb05gate In real life: Rick Gates Directory: /b/lb05/gate Shell: /bin/csh Last login Wed Sep 30 20:00 on tty11 No unread mail Plan: ------------------------------------------------------------------ Rick Gates (805) 893-7225 Dir. of Library Automation Univ. of California lb05gate@ucsbuxa.uscb.edu Santa Barbara, CA 93106 Interests: Net surfing, hiking, cooking, gardening, playing guitar and playing basketball, the ONE true sport! Other Answers ------------- Source: logical guestimate Cruising the nets! --- Beats me! :-) --- Internet Surfing! --- Send mail to lb05gate@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu. In the body of your request, include text: "Rick, what is your favorite sport?" Do I get a point? HUH HUH? 8-) --- My guess is setting Internet Hunt questions. --- Basketball. Jeez, Rick, that was the easiest one! --- I can't offer info from the net but good european prejudice :), how about Baseball as a tip? --- The often overlooked best source: someone who knows. Ask someone! Charlie (docmaps@arizvms.bitnet -- an internet resource, right) says its drinking beer but that you might think it was basketball. To find out for sure, ask cgates@westmont.edu who he seemed to think you might be acquainted with :-) SHE writes: "His favorite sport is definitely basketball. He calls it 'the one true sport.'" (Rick: Very sneaky, but clever!)