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- From: sa114984@longs.lance.colostate.edu (Steven Arnold)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Re: Roe v. Wade and abortion (was Re: Anot
- Message-ID: <Sep16.004627.72907@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
- Date: 16 Sep 92 00:46:27 GMT
- References: <Sep14.180310.83928@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> <1992Sep14.204915.22713@bmw.mayo.edu>
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- In article <1992Sep14.204915.22713@bmw.mayo.edu>, bmc@mayo.edu (Bruce Cameron, Med Sci 1-14, 4-3288) writes:
- |> In article 83928@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU, sa114984@longs.lance.colostate.edu (Steven Arnold) writes:
- |> >In article <24987@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ron Bense) writes:
- |> >|> In talk.abortion, sa114984@longs.lance.colostate.edu (Steven Arnold) writes:
- |> >|> |>In article <24799@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ron Bense)
- |> >|>
- |> >|>
- |> >|> > Penetrating intellectual analysis at its finest.
- |> >|>
- |> >|> At least you posted....
- |> >|>
- |> >|> |> It's not a human being with the connotations I believe you are implying.
- |> >|>
- |> >|> > The unborn child is a living member of the human species. Mere human
- |> >|> >tissue is not a living member of the human species. I have the proof.
- |> >|>
- |> >|> Then why didn't you post it, or would it be shot down by recent experiments
- |> >|> that show the interchangeability of certain types of tumors and all
- |> >|> fetuses?
- |> >
- |> > No, it's well-known medical fact. I'll post it if you like. BTW, where
- |> >are YOUR sources?
- |>
- |> [Sources provided]
-
- Thank you for providing your sources. But your incredible
- assertion that fetuses and tumors are interchangeable is a gross
- overstatement of the evidence. The evidence shows that in some
- MOUSE teratoma cells, that these cells, when injected into mouse
- uteri, will develop into mouse adults.
- The documentation you show does not prove that HUMAN
- embryos are interchangeable with tumors; at most, it indicates
- a need for further research. Any statement more liberal than that
- amounts to speaking beyond the available evidence.
- At any rate, a being which begins to develop into an adult
- of a given species, an organism with all the necessary genetic
- makeup for that species, is a member of that species. You may
- dislike that fact, but it is a fact nonetheless.
- To quote Dr. Andre Hellegers, former professor of
- obstetrics and gynecology at the Georgetown University Hospital
- and director of the Joseph and Rose Kennedy Institute for the
- Study of Human Reproduction and Bioethics in Washington D.C. says:
- "...there is not any question of when, biologically, human life
- begins...(it) is at conception and to say that it begins at any
- other time is biological nonsense..."
- BTW, my challenge is still open if you dispute the fact
- that a new member of the species homo sapiens is created at
- conception: find me a doctor who will contradict this statement.
- If you're so darned sure you're right, it shouldn't be any trouble.
-
- Steve
-