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- From: pratt@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU (Vaughan R. Pratt)
- Subject: Re: quantization of angular momentum
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- Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 21:55:11 GMT
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- In article <25949@dog.ee.lbl.gov> sichase@csa3.lbl.gov writes:
- >>>>Ouch! L is quantized under all circumstances. Its eigenvalues are
- >>>>half-integer multiples of hbar, even for free particles.
- >>Angular momentum, though, always has discrete eigenvalues.
- >
- >Angular momentum is not a good quantum number for a plane wave.
-
- I don't agree. Plane waves and the trajectory of the particle are
- surely a red herring here. Start with the classical picture. The
- orbital angular momentum of a particle with position r and momentum p
- is defined to be r x p, a vector normal to both r and p. In this
- definition there is no restriction on the shape of the trajectory, and
- no requirement that the origin (with respect to which r is measured) be
- the center of curvature of the trajectory.
-
- To better see this (still in the classical framework), consider a stone
- whirled around at one end of a piece of string whose other end is held
- stationary at a point we take to be the origin. When you cut the
- string what happens to the orbital angular momentum of the stone?
- Answer: it is conserved. Since the stone is now traveling in a
- straight line (ignoring gravity) this would appear to contradict
- Scott's intuition about its orbital angular momentum. But when you
- consider the definition of angular momentum, rxp, this conservation can
- be seen to be an immediate consequence of this definition and the
- choice of center of rotation for the origin, a choice we did not change
- when we cut the string, even though the stone no longer describes a
- circular orbit about that origin. The stone maintains a fixed angular
- momentum about *our choice of origin* as it zooms away on its
- now-linear trajectory.
-
- Now pass to the quantum picture. All of the above remains true, except
- for the outcome of measurements of the above quantities. Measurements
- of the orbital angular momentum now yield integer multiples of h~
- (writing h~ for h-bar --- note that half-integers occur for spin AM but
- not for orbital AM). Measurements of either one of r or p can be made
- to arbitrary precision, but not both together, by Heisenberg (which I
- think is also a reasonable answer to Tom Knight's original question).
-
- Since Tom put in a request for additional intuition, here's a picture I
- have found helpful in visualizing the quantum mechanics of L = r x p,
- and more generally of any conjugate pair of observables. If we take r
- and p to be points in the n-dimensional spaces R and P, then we can
- view the pair (r,p) as a point in the 2n-dimensional space RxP. (Take
- n=1 to visualize this, n=3 to apply it to the 3D world, necessary to
- make sense of angular momentum. Here RxP is direct product of vector
- spaces, not to be confused with the vector product rxp which assumes
- n=3 and is a bilinear transformation mapping the 6D space RxP to the 3D
- space of angular momenta.)
-
- In classical mechanics RxP is called *phase space*. Phase space
- behaves like an incompressible fluid: as time passes, regions in phase
- space may change shape but not volume.
-
- Now in quantum mechanics, points in phase space have an uncertainty of
- h~, that is, points blur into regions of volume h~. Now if we bring
- the classical incompressibility of phase space into the quantum picture
- then we find that a region of uncertainty retains its overall volume.
- But its shape may change: it can become arbitrarily narrow in either
- its position or momentum component. This corresponds to knowing
- respectively the position or momentum of the particle to arbitrary
- precision. But we cannot know both to arbitrary precision since that
- would require the volume of the region of uncertainty to decrease below
- h~.
-
- This picture applies anywhere that Heisenberg's principle applies. Its
- key ingredients are the classical incompressibility of phase space
- applied to quantum mechanics, and the "amorphously quantized"
- uncertainty of points in quantum phase space. This gives a graphic way
- of visualizing Heisenberg's uncertainty principle in general, and in
- particular the paradox of quantized L = r x p in the face of continuous
- r and p.
-
- What I don't know is how robust this picture is, i.e. where if anywhere
- does it let one down?
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