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- From: smckinty@sunicnc.France.Sun.COM (Steve McKinty - Sun ICNC)
- Newsgroups: sci.electronics
- Subject: Re: Where does snow come from?
- Date: 8 Sep 1992 10:45:28 GMT
- Organization: SunConnect
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- Sender: smckinty@France.Sun.COM (Steve McKinty - Sun ICNC)
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- In article <etxansk.715946468@garbod20>, etxansk@garbo.ericsson.se writes:
- >
- > I'm wondering where the snowy screen information comes from, on a TV
- > set that isn't receiving any real RF video signal.
- >
- > Is the snow "in the air" or does it only exist in the TV's tuner?
- >
- > If it's noise from earth and the rest of our universe, will this
- > messy information fade away if I hide the tuner's receiving parts
- > behind a shield that's good enough?
- >
- > I don't need the answer to solve a specific problem, I'm just
- > curious about how these things work.
- >
- > Anders Skelander
- >
-
- Most of it is generated inside the tuner, in the mixer stage. Mixers
- are notoriously noisy, about the only way to silence them is to run them
- somewhere near absolute zero, which makes watching TV rather chilly :-)
-
- There is some background noise 'in the air', especially if you live near
- an industrial area, but its pretty low-level. The big radio telescopes
- operate their circuitry close to 0degrees, because they want to see the
- background noise from the universe.
-
- If you remove the aerial, and completely screen the input socket, you'll
- find that the snow hardly diminishes at all. Disconnect the power supply
- from the mixer transistor and you get a calm grey screen.
-
- The automatic gain circuitry inside a TV is designed to compensate for
- mixer noise. Where possible it leaves the amplifier between Aerial and
- Mixer at the highest gain possible, and reduces the gain after the mixer
- if necessary (if you are receiving a strong signal). That way you get the
- highest ration of signal-to-mixernoise. As a last resort it will reduce the
- gain of that first amplifier (delayed AGC), at that point the signal is
- likely to be so strong that the noise is undetectable. Its not just
- a problem with TVs, all superhet recievers suffer from it.
-
- Steve
-