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- From: ghg@en.ecn.purdue.edu (George Goble)
- Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech
- Subject: Re: A/C manifold gauges question
- Message-ID: <1992Sep11.203648.18336@en.ecn.purdue.edu>
- Date: 11 Sep 92 20:36:48 GMT
- References: <1992Sep9.195545.4121@newsgate.sps.mot.com> <1992Sep9.230529.19206@gtephx.UUCP> <1992Sep10.162339.23464@news.nd.edu>
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- In article <1992Sep10.162339.23464@news.nd.edu> mikeb@nowaksg.chem.nd.edu (Michael George Buening) writes:
- >In article <1992Sep9.230529.19206@gtephx.UUCP> rakoczynskij@gtephx.UUCP (Jurek Rakoczynski) writes:
- >>In article <1992Sep9.195545.4121@newsgate.sps.mot.com>, mark@wdcwdc.sps.mot.com (Mark Shaw) writes:
- >
- >[stuff deleted for space]
- >
- >>The R12 pressure (or is temperature the correct word?) in a
- >>non-operating system should be the same no matter what the total
- >>charge is, as long as there is still liquid R12 in the system. For
- >>example, the pressure in a propane tank will read the same at a given
- >>temperature no matter how much propane is actually in the tank.
- >
- >Whoa!!! What is the logic behind this statement. I'm not sure what
- >you mean here but I can't make sense of this. As many of you know from
- >a simple chem/phys text: PV=nRT
- >where P=pressure; V=volume; n=amount of the gas (in moles); T=temp
- >and R= gas constant. When you change any one of the variables,
- >n,T or V, you change P. If you have more propane in a tank at the
- >same temp you will have more pressure. Because this is related to
- >n, or the amount of propane, you can correlate pressure with concentration
- >if you know what the volume is.
- >
- >
- >
- > --Michael Buening
- > internet:mikeb@nowaksg.chem.nd.edu
-
- WHOA! PV=nRT is the gas law. It only applies if there is no "liquid"
- in the tank or refrigeration system. If any liquid is present, the
- pressure will follow the pressure/temp relationship for the substance.
- Propane is an almost exact Match for R-22.
-
- A not running refrigeration system (or propane tank), will have the
- same pressure (at a given temp) no matter if there is 1 drop of
- liquid (freon) or propane left or it is 99.9% full of liquid.
-
- Typical pressure for R-12 is 70 PSIG at 70F, 82 PSIG @ 80F (may be
- off a couple of PSI).
- --ghg
-