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- From: nbrotz@poplar15 (Norb Brotz)
- Subject: Re: A/C manifold gauges question
- Message-ID: <1992Sep9.182217.5674@hemlock.cray.com>
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- Date: 9 Sep 92 18:22:17 CDT
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- Sorry about the previous mispost (Yea, the newsreader did it :^))
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- mark@wdcwdc.sps.mot.com (Mark Shaw) writes:
- :
- : I concur with James Swonger's comments on A/C gage pressures and
- : diagnosis. The inner R12 scale can also be used for a quick charge
- : check. That scale basically indicates the temperature of R12 that
- : would give that pressure reading.
- :
- : In the early morning a car usually has had time to cool down to
- : ambient temperature overnight and it is not yet being heated up by
- : the sun. Threfore the ambient temperature is usually the same as
- : the temperature of the A/C system. If you connect the gage at this
- : time, the inner R12 reading should match the ambient temperature
- : if your have a sufficient charge.
- :
- : If the indicated R12 temperature is less, you are undercharged.
- : If the indicated R12 temperature is more, you are overcharged.
- : Rather simple and you don't have to deal with those higher running
- : pressures. This method is not precise (doesn't actually tell how much
- : freon to add/subtract) but is the next best thing to watching a sight
- : glass for bubbles.
- :
- : regards, Mark (mark@wdc.sps.mot.com) Tempe, AZ
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- I interpreted this to mean that you testing with the A/C turned off.
- The above test really isn't adequate. This is because the normal system
- contains a combination of saturated R-12 vapor and liquid R-12 (with
- some oil mixed in). The pressure in the system is then that of the
- saturated R-12 vapor. If the pressure is lower, either the gauge is
- busted or there is no liquid R-12 in the system. If the pressure is
- higher, then either the gauge is busted or there is another gas (air)
- mixed in with the R-12. You really have to measure the running system.
-
- Norb Brotz
- nbrotz@cray.com
- Obviously my personal opinions, having nothing to do with reality.
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