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- From: mike@majestix.cs.uoregon.edu (Michael John Haertel)
- Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
- Subject: Re: "official" FSF position on apple
- Message-ID: <MIKE.92Sep15211204@majestix.cs.uoregon.edu>
- Date: 16 Sep 92 05:12:04 GMT
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- In-Reply-To: jbuck@forney.berkeley.edu's message of 16 Sep 92 03:26:33 GMT
-
- Joe Buck writes:
- >Does this mean that FSF must boycott AT&T/USL in the same way as they
- >boycott Apple? Not at all. They are free to choose the most effective
- >strategy for each opponent. Apple makes its money selling hardware (their
- >[...] USL makes its money selling software and Unix licenses.
-
- Note that the FSF is not officially interested in boycotting USL. The
- FSF regards USL as just another company making money selling
- proprietary software. The FSF would like to make this obsolete, but
- not out of any specific animosity towards USL. Similarly, the choice
- of Unix as the OS to clone again does not reflect any specific
- animosity towards AT&T or USL. FSF is not out to "get" USL.
-
- FSF is not opposed to people making money; it is opposed to the
- "proprietary" part. The reason FSF is so violently opposed to Apple
- is that Apple, by their lawsuits, are attempting to extend the scope
- of what "proprietary" can cover. USL, by contrast, have not attempted
- to claim that the Unix interface is proprietary--they are just suing
- for alleged violation of specific copyrights and trade secrets.
- Whether USL wins or loses does not matter (much) to the FSF as the
- lawsuit is unlikely to create any new case law on intellectual property.
-
- Someone else (not Joe Buck), somewhere earlier in this thread, seemed
- to be implying that one reason Apple is objectionable is because of
- their supposed "outrageous" profit margin on the hardware they sell.
- The FSF does not care one way or another what some company's profits are.
- If XYZ, Inc. sells C-64 clones for $10,000 that cost $20 to make,
- why should the FSF care? Market forces will take care of this sort
- of thing. What the FSF is interested in is making software non-
- proprietary. Then market forces will take care of the current
- artificially high software costs too.
-