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- From: jbuck@forney.berkeley.edu (Joe Buck)
- Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
- Subject: Re: "official" FSF position on apple
- Date: 16 Sep 1992 03:26:33 GMT
- Organization: U. C. Berkeley
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- References: <1992Sep15.005357.14302@kithrup.COM> <DREIER.92Sep15145233@lhasa.berkeley.edu> <1992Sep15.221741.28261@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
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- In article <1992Sep15.221741.28261@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gsh7w@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Hennessy) writes:
- >In article <DREIER.92Sep15145233@lhasa.berkeley.edu>
- >dreier@lhasa.berkeley.edu (Roland Dreier) writes:
- >#I'm still a little confused about the difference between USL and Apple.
- >
- >Apple is saying, "We will sue anyone who writes code that looks like a
- >Mac."
- >
- >USL is saying, "We will sue anyone who distributes our code without
- >proper liscencing."
-
- There certainly are distinctions between the two situations, but the
- latter case isn't quite that simple. It isn't all that clear what USL
- is claiming; by attacking all of Networking-2, even though clearly almost
- all of it is completely original work, without pinpointing any specific
- cases, their suit is equivalent to trying to shut down an entire bookstore
- because of a question about one or two books. They aren't saying whether
- the problem is copyright violation or trade secret violation either.
- If USL had said "these specific modules violate our copyright" I'm sure
- CSRG would have happily removed them from the Networking-2 distribution.
- They tried to do just this -- have AT&T check their list of AT&T-free
- files -- but AT&T refused to cooperate.
-
- The Apple suit is clearly more dangerous, but the USL suit threatens the
- cause of free software as well, by casting a cloud over the contributions
- of many authors at Berkeley and elsewhere who contributed to Networking-2.
- FSF and others may now feel compelled to waste time rewriting software
- they could otherwise have obtained from Networking-2.
-
- RMS's opinions on some of these issues differ from mine -- I think that
- USL could make as strong a case -- that is, complete bullshit, but close
- enough to tie up CMU in the courts for years -- against Mach 3.0, but
- others disagree. Who knows what the courts will decide?
-
- Does this mean that FSF must boycott AT&T/USL in the same way as they
- boycott Apple? Not at all. They are free to choose the most effective
- strategy for each opponent. Apple makes its money selling hardware (their
- software revenue is tiny by comparison). Strategy: make the hardware less
- valuable by refusing to provide software for it. USL makes its money
- selling software and Unix licenses. How to attack them? By producing
- software that provides the same functionality as theirs without giving any
- revenue to them. It seems to me that the appropriate strategy is being
- used against each opponent. If it is most effective to continue to use
- Unix boxes (for which a Unix license has been paid) to develop Gnu, no
- matter; in the long run, the Gnu project will cost USL more revenue than
- a self-defeating boycott would.
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- --
- Joe Buck jbuck@ohm.berkeley.edu
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