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- From: preece@urbana.mcd.mot.com (Scott E. Preece)
- Subject: Re: Are you sure UNIX is a trade mark? ("UNIX" != "AT&T System V")
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- Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:51:07 GMT
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- In article <farrow.716074432@fido.Colorado.EDU> farrow@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (J. Scott Farrow) writes:
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- | >In article <KANDALL.92Sep9170758@globalize.nsg.sgi.com> kandall@nsg.sgi.com (Michael Kandall) writes:
- | ...
- | >The term "UNIX" has not fallen into common use in the sense than it refers
- | >to any "UNIX-like" product.
- | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- |
- | The hell it hasn't! AT&T/USL are several years too late. I was using
- | UN*X for over a year before I even heard of AT&T System V. At CU
- | Boulder, we don't even have any SysV machines that I know of, yet we
- | refer to all of our UN*X boxes as "UNIX". It has been at least several
- | years since "UNIX" meant AT&T System V, and I bet nobody outside of AT&T
- | and USL still mean that when they say "UNIX". I say "UNIX" does indeed
- | refer to any UNIX-like product. In fact, I would say "UNIX" is now
- | understood to mean a general class of OS's to most people in the
- | computing field.
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- Sorry, but I'll bet virtually all of the machines you are referring to
- are running systems which *are* derived from AT&T/USL UNIX code and that
- they pay license fees to AT&T/USL for the privilege. UNIX is *not* just
- System V; System V is just the current USL UNIX product. Things like
- BSD UNIX, HP-UX, SunOS, AIX, Au/X, Xenix, etc., are all licensed
- versions of UNIX. Not all of them paid the necessary additional fees to
- actually use the trademark "UNIX" on their products, but I don't think
- you would get a court to accept that the common use of "UNIX" to
- describe such systems diluted the trademark. There are a few UNIX-like
- systems (like Coherent) which are not derived from "real" UNIX code, but
- I don't think many people call them UNIX.
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