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- From: halpin@vsg1.dsg.dec.com (Stephen E. Halpin)
- Subject: Re: NT: please define vapor.
- Message-ID: <1992Sep12.031443.24612@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>
- Sender: usenet@nntpd.lkg.dec.com (USENET News System)
- Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
- References: <1992Sep10.231139.3436@cbnewse.cb.att.com> <2052@ltb.ltb.bso.nl>
- Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 03:14:43 GMT
- Lines: 48
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- In article <2052@ltb.ltb.bso.nl> wierda@ltb.ltb.bso.nl (Gerben Wierda) writes:
- <<stuff deleted>>
- >I don't see a NT yet, let alone one that has applications. What I did see was
- >the alpha release of some hidden kernel and services and the windows program
- >manager and a DOS emulation on top. Plus some small debugging apps like memory
- >scanners. The latter made me very cautious about the availability of NT. If
- >they need those, they won't get it out in a very usable form before end 93.
-
- You didnt see the demonstrations on the 16-processor Sequent(?) box. The
- kernel looks to be in reasonable shape to be ported to the number of MP
- boxes that its currently running on and survive the number of demos that
- have been given.
-
- >The fact that I can run DOS or windows3.1 (which is DOS also) under NT doesn't
- >make those apps NT apps. I can run those under SOftPC on a Sun, a Mac, etc.
- >and of course a NeXT.
-
- The Windows NT API is derived almost directly from the 16-bit Windows
- interface. Porting will go quickly relative to something like a Mac->OpenLook
- port, and you can be sure that all major developers are working on ports
- that will run on Intel based boxes.
-
- >The issue here is: What can I do with NT now? Mainly use DOS. And develop (but
- >not as smooth as on a NeXT). This is the smartest thing I have seen so far in
- >the software industry: sell a system for $69 that is not complete and create a
- >"market" in figures just because of that. NeXT should sell NS/486 licenses for
- >$10 and let people pay for "media" when the stuff is shipped.
- >
- >I really admire the sales department of Microsoft.
-
- I think they finally woke up after seeing no small developer support for
- OS/2 when they were charging $3,000 for the development kit. Everyone in
- the NeXT market knows that there are some really cool applications coming
- from very small companies, and if they had to pay enormous fees for development
- tools on top of an expensive machine (remember, $100 386 motherboards werent
- the rule when OS/2 came out) they would simply develop for some other platform.
- I fear NeXT charging another $1,500 for development tools on NS486. This
- WILL reduce the number of small startups on the NeXT, who will take the
- few dollars they had for a 486 box in the first place and get the Windows NT
- kit and target what will probably be a larger market.
-
- >--
- >wierda@ltb.bso.nl (Gerben Wierda) || I speak for myself and not for my employer.
- >(+31) 2154 84415/(+31) 35 833539 || Support the League for Programming Freedom!
- > "If you don't know where you are going, any road will take you there."
- > (Almost from) Lewis Carroll, "Alice in Wonderland".
-
- Waiting VERY impatiently to buy a NRW, -Steve
-