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  3. From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
  4. Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.hp,comp.unix.questions,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
  5. Subject: Re: net.views -- which vendor is the most open?
  6. Message-ID: <7286@lib.tmc.edu>
  7. Date: 10 Sep 1992 16:57:37 GMT
  8. References: <BuBx63.H64@vcd.hp.com> <1992Sep10.024324.17106@decuac.dec.com> <BuCytz.1IG@world.std.com>
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  11. Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston
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  14.  
  15. In article <BuCytz.1IG@world.std.com> geoff@world.std.com (Geoff Collyer) writes:
  16. >The last open system I used actively was a VAX 750; the hardware was
  17. >documented sufficiently well that one could write operating system code
  18. >for it (without having to beg, grovel, sign non-disclosure agreements,
  19. >bribe your vendor, sue your vendor, or sell your soul to the devil).
  20.  
  21. There are folks who will want to skin me for this, but there's a company
  22. building open systems by this definition: IBM. The System/3x0 hardware is
  23. documented completely, even pedantically, in the Principles of Operation
  24. books. There are even cloners who work from nothing but those books.
  25. -- 
  26. Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
  27. jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by stupidity.
  28.  "Keep in mind that Amateur Radio As We Know It Today will cease to exist
  29.             at midnight tonight." -- Dave Newkirk, WJ1Z
  30.