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- From: djs@jet.uk (David J Stevenson)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
- Subject: Re: Nyquist wrong. Not [was (none)]
- Message-ID: <1992Sep14.104401.8585@jet.uk>
- Date: 14 Sep 92 10:44:01 GMT
- References: <2250287@overmind.citadel>
- Organization: Joint European Torus
- Lines: 44
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- In <2250287@overmind.citadel> only_bbs!JOHN_LOCKARD@overmind.mind.org writes:
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-
- >
- > > You don't have enough net credits.
- >
- > Aw Damn! Hang-on a minute. Gotta put a few more quarters into the modem.
- > *Click* *Chink* *Click* *Chink* *Click* *Chink* *Click* *Chink* Okay...
- >
- > The net messed-up so I don't know who I'm replying to, but....
- > There's a difference between frequency and sampling frequency.
- > To sample a sine-wave you need at least twice the frequncy -
- > the reason is that a sampler takes a snap-shot of the waves
- > amplitude. So if you sample at the frequency you only get
- > one part of the sine-wave each time you sample, say the upper
- > part, thus a DC wave. If you sample at twice the freqency
- > then you'll get the upper part of the wave and then the lower
- > part of the wave - thus you can reproduce it accurately.
- >
- > This only works with cases where you know where the wave is
- > If you don't know where it is, then you may wind-up sampling
- > the points of the wave that are at zero - meaning the wave
- > is hidden. In that case you need to up the sampling freqency.
- > Between the sampling rates of twice the freqency and four times
- > the freqency of the sine-wave you get complex phase, frequency,
- > and amplitude distortions that aren't easy to filter out.
- >
- > That's why to get the 35KHz wave that the human ear is supposed
- > to detect you need at least 100KHz or more to reproduce the sound.
- >
- > P.S. Graph out a sine wave and sampling if you need a model.
- I do not think that you understand basic sampling theory. Please look it up.
- A sine wave of up to 35kHz can be represented by a sampling rate of 70kHz.
- You are right that, if sampling at exactly 70kHz, you cannot tell the
- difference between DC and 35kHz, but anything less than 35 is fine.
-
- According to your descriptions above, a CD should have a bandwidth of about
- 10kHz or less!
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- - Disclaimer: Please note that the above is a personal view and should not
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