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- This is GEnieLamp, from the GEnie Information Service. It is being
- posted to the Internet by request from Tom Schmitz, one of the A2
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- ~ CHATTING WITH GARY UTTER ~
- ~ GEnieLamp CONTEST WINNERS ANNOUNCED! ~
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- GEnie Lamp A2/A2Pro ~ A T/TalkNET OnLine Publication ~ Vol.1, Issue 6
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- Publisher............................................Kent Fillmore
- Senior Editor........................................John Peters
- Editor (AII).......................................Tom Schmitz
- Co-Editor (AII).................................Phil Shapiro
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- >>> WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE APPLE II ROUNDTABLE? <<<
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- ~ September 1992 ~
-
- FROM MY DESKTOP ......... [FRM] CONTEST WINNERS! ........ [WAR]
- Notes From The Editor. Pass The Envelope Please.
-
- HEY MISTER POSTMAN ...... [HEY] HUMOR ONLINE ............ [HUM]
- Is That A Letter for Me? Python Fever Spreads in STRT.
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- PROGRAMMING CORNER ...... [PRO] ONLINE FUN .............. [FUN]
- Apple II and You. A2 Pro News & Features.
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- WHO'S WHO ............... [WHO] FOCUS ON ................ [FOC]
- Who's Who In Apple II. Computers As Therapy.
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- GAMES PEOPLE PLAY ....... [GAM] COWTOONS ................ [COW]
- Bouncin' Ferno. Mooooooo Fun!
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- SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS ...... [SHA] APPLE II ................ [AII]
- It's Only Money. Apple II History, Part 4.
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- THE ONLINE LIBRARY ...... [LIB] TELETALK ONLINE ......... [TEL]
- Yours For The Downloading. Doing It Online.
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- LOG OFF ................. [LOG]
- GEnieLamp Information.
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- [IDX] """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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- READING GEnie Lamp GEnie Lamp has incorporated a unique indexing
- """""""""""""""""" system to help make reading the magazine easier.
- To utilize this system, load GEnie Lamp into any ASCII word processor
- or text editor. In the index you will find the following example:
-
- HUMOR ONLINE ............ [HUM]
- [*]GEnie Fun & Games.
-
- To read this article, set your find or search command to [HUM]. If
- you want to scan all of the articles, search for [EOA]. [EOF] will take
- you to the last page, whereas [IDX] will bring you back to the index.
-
- MESSAGE INFO To make it easy for you to respond to messages re-printed
- """""""""""" here in GEnie Lamp, you will find all the information you
- need immediately following the message. For example:
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- (SMITH, CAT6, TOP1, MSG:58/M475)
- _____________| _____|__ _|___ |____ |_____________
- |Name of sender CATegory TOPic Msg.# Page number|
-
- In this example, to respond to Smith's message, log on to page
- 475 enter the bulletin board and set CAT 6. Enter your REPly in TOPic 1.
-
- A message number that is surrounded by brackets indicates that this
- message is a "target" message and is referring to a "chain" of two
- or more messages that are following the same topic. For example: {58}
-
- ABOUT GEnie GEnie costs only $4.95 a month for unlimited evening and
- """"""""""" weekend access to more than 100 services including
- electronic mail, online encyclopedia, shopping, news, entertainment,
- single-player games, multi-player chess and bulletin boards on leisure
- and professional subjects. With many other services, including the
- largest collection of files to download and the best online games, for
- only $6 per hour (non-prime-time/2400 baud). To sign up for GEnie
- service, call (with modem) 1-800-638-8369. Upon connection type HHH.
- Wait for the U#= prompt. Type: XTX99368,GENIE and hit RETURN. The system
- will then prompt you for your information.
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- / "Haven't you heard "patience is a virtue" and "all good things /
- / to those who wait"? :^)" /
- / /
- / "Sure I have... But where's the update?? <Grin>..." /
- ////////////////////////////////////// D.SEBERG / T.EVANS21 ////
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- [EOA]
- [FRM]//////////////////////////////
- FROM MY DESKTOP /
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- Notes From The Editor
- """""""""""""""""""""
- By John Peters
- [GENIELAMP]
-
-
-
- TOP OF THE PAGE The big news this month is the announcement of the
- """"""""""""""" GEnieLamp Computer Wars Contest winners. I am pleased to
- report that we received many entries from many different computer
- platforms. My thanks to everyone who participated in the contest.
-
- I was surprised at how few entries came in from the larger platforms
- and even more surprised at how many entries we received from the smaller
- systems. If we were handing out an award based on how many entries we
- received, the Apple II platform would easily take the prize. Strangely
- enough, the IBM and Macintosh would be dead last. Perplexing.
-
- You will find the 1st, 2nd and 3rd place winning articles elsewhere in
- this issue. All other entries will be published in future issues of
- GEnieLamp.
-
- All-in-all, we had fun with the contest and we hope you did too.
-
-
- NEW ALADDIN COLUMN I am happy to announce that master script writer, Jim
- """""""""""""""""" Lubin has agreed to start a monthly column about
- Aladdin scripts. Each month in the IBM and ST Lamp there will be a "Cut &
- Paste" script that you can add to Aladdin. This month Jim makes it easy
- for you to check your GEnie Usage and Billing Data. With this script
- getting this information is now just a click away!
-
-
- ON A PERSONAL NOTE I received a somewhat frantic GE Mail message from
- """""""""""""""""" long-time GEnieLamp ST staff writer Richard Brown
- [R.BROWN30] who wrote, "The hurricane is 16 hours and only 1.5 degrees off
- making my house the bullseye. 2 hours sleep, massive adrenaline. You might
- need to edit a little, sorry, but I'm bugging out. Online again ASAP."
- Since then I've seen horrifying news reports of destruction and chaos from
- Florida. From all of us here at GEnieLamp, our thoughts are with you and
- your family, Richard.
-
-
- GOOD TO KNOW! I'm afraid I have to agree with you about working with
- """"""""""""" the phone company regarding line noise. I work for
- Michigan Bell as a cable splicer, and before then I was a repairman.
-
- For the past few years I've had a lot of battles with management
- about this topic. I got nowhere with them either. There are two problem
- areas. First, the vast majority of station repairman are not trained in
- repairing problems related with data lines. It requires some special
- equipment also. In our area, the only people with this knowledge and
- training are the Large Business Technicians. These are generally
- repairman/installers who do nothing but work for companies, and a lot of
- their work is on data lines.
-
- What you need to do is request (demand?) that the repair department
- send out one of these people instead of a regular repairman. If you don't
- get anywhere then demand to talk to a supervisor. If that doesn't help,
- start calling your local public service commission. Unfortunately, in most
- cases you have to make a lot of noise.
-
- Here is another fact. The phone company will tell you that there is
- nothing in the tariffs that say a "plain old telephone service" line will
- support data. This is true. But the tariffs and the FCC regulations
- require that the phone line come up to a certain requirements. If these
- requirements are met your phone line should easily handle 2400 baud
- service. When you run 9600 baud and higher you are at the very top of
- those limits and it's not reasonable for Bell to supply every customer with
- perfect lines. But there are ways to cure noise ratio and Db Loss problems
- very simply. But that gets back to my first comment...the repairmen are
- not properly trained to fix data lines.
-
- I have found a simple way to cure most problems with data lines. It
- doesn't solve them all but it's worked for me in 13 out of 15 attempts.
- Ask your repair department to install an RF filter to reduce radio noise
- coming through the phone lines, and also place a Db Pad (Bell calls them a
- "97A Jack"). The pad is especially important if you live near the central
- office (where the dialtone comes from). It may cost you a small
- installation fee. If you just ask the repairman to install them he may
- even do it just to get you off his back.
-
- Some day the government will ease off the phone company and we will
- start putting fiber optic cables directly to every home. Then you can
- enjoy super fast data without any noise at all.
- (G.CROSS, CAT8, TOP10, MSG:140/M474)
-
-
- Until next month...
- John Peters
- GEnieLamp E-Magazine
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- / "I'm *sold* out & _all_ shipped out... Whew, 26 outa 32.. /
- / GEnie is a wonder!!!" /
- //////////////////////////////////////////// T.EVANS21 ////
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- [EOA]
- [WAR]//////////////////////////////
- CONTEST WINNERS! /
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- Pass The Envelope Please
- """"""""""""""""""""""""
- By John Peters
- [GENIELAMP]
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-
-
- >>> THE ANNUAL GEnieLamp COMPUTER WAR CONTEST! <<<
- """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
- ~ FIRST PLACE - $100.00 GEnie Online Credit ~
- Brian McLean / [B.MCLEAN7]
-
-
- THE BEST COMPUTER? I once visited a grocers' distribution data
- """""""""""""""""" processing center and was intrigued with the number
- of silver disks hanging on the wall, appearing like trophies representing
- best-selling record albums gone platinum. Only these weren't platinum
- record albums encased in crystal, framed in silver: these were hard drives
- nailed in effigy to the wall. And the head programmer described with
- horror the sound of a hard-drive crashing, the sound of steel fingernails
- dragging down some electronic chalkboard, a sound he knew too well.
-
- There is no adequate answer to the question, which is the best computer.
- The truth is, none of us really likes computers. They perform stupid
- electronic tricks very quickly and with uncanny precision, as opposed to
- humans, who perform stupid tricks slowly and often inaccurately.
-
- The problem with computers lies in their ability to lull us into
- complacency. Just as they become some dependable and predictable friend in
- our lives, bringing order to chaos, they burn us by failing to save an
- important file, or by destroying the hard drive, or by catching on fire.
- Et tu R2D2.
-
- Computers conjure up unrealistic expectations. Some believe that
- computers are the harbinger of some 1984 Orwellian nightmare, and represent
- the ultimate instrument of oppression. Still others believe that computers
- will solve world hunger, bring world peace, or cure incurable diseases.
- The sad truth is that computers do only what humans tell them to do.
- Stupidly, quickly, and accurately.
-
- The question of which computer platform is the best, then, is really
- the wrong question. Computers in a vacuum, unplugged, are nothing at all.
- It is the user or programmer that defines the platform. The flawed
- question posed is analogous to asking which is the best musical instrument,
- while ignoring the great instrumentalists. To make the question
- interesting at all, one must answer it with a twist.
-
- Which is the best computer? My buddy Kevin thinks it's the Macintosh,
- which is arguably the coolest machine. Perhaps others would argue that the
- IBM or its "compatible" is the politically correct choice. Still others
- would embrace without question the innovative Cray. Or the vacuum-tubed
- Sperry-Univac, on nostalgic value alone. My little brother might
- convincingly argue Nintendo. But I think the proper answer to the question
- is the modem, that little cross-platform device with no moving parts and
- exaggerated warranties. The modem is the universal electronic medium. The
- modem educates, it informs, it amuses, it distinguishes not between
- seemingly incompatible platforms. The modem transfers and receives
- electronic mail and makes a large, detached, cold world, a little smaller,
- closer and warmer. The modem makes my IBM-compatible a universal platform.
- And I do not expect to be nailing my modem to the wall any time soon. At
- least not before the five-year warranty runs out.
-
- Brian McLean owns and operates an IBM-compatible ZEOS 386-25 with
- a relatively full 120 megabyte hard drive. Waiting to crash.
-
-
-
- >>> 2ND PLACE - $50.00 GEnie Online Credit <<<
- """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
- ~ Paul Vega / [P.VEGA1] ~
-
-
- THE HP-15C ADVANCED PROGRAMMABLE First, I want you to forget you saw
- """""""""" SCIENTIFIC CALCULATOR that word, "calculator." It brings up
- """"""""""""""""""""" all sorts of bilious preconceptions of
- gawky LED displays, Chiclet-style keyboards, and puny processing power.
- Preconceptions are dangerous in a world groaning under the weight of
- nuclear bombs.
-
- So let us start anew, with fresh eyes, and examine this multi-
- functional device, this affable helper, my friend, the HP-15C.
-
- This machine has features which far outpace those of other members in
- its class. Check out that full-width, ten digit display! In power-
- conserving LCD, no less. This is sufficient for spelling out many words,
- such as "07734," in the popularly used DUS encryption format. (To read DUS
- ("Down, upside") encrypted code, turn the HP-15C upside-down.)
-
- The ergonomic keyboard boasts tactile feedback, and, in a bold move by
- H-P engineers, completely breaks from the QWERTY layout which has had such
- a stranglehold on the vast majority of typical personal computers,
- condemning users to a servitude of tangled fingers, endless typing lessons,
- and in some tragic cases, carpal tunnel syndrome. Indeed, by stripping the
- keyboard of all alphabetic characters, leaving only the numeric and
- mathematical/scientific function keys, H-P has virtually assured a new,
- refreshing brevity in any report or paper typed on this machine. I
- enthusiastically recommend that it be immediately installed in every legal
- office in the country!
-
- But let us not overlook the HP-15C's most obviously appealing
- attribute--its gloriously tiny size. At 3 x 5", and a smattering of ounces,
- the 15C was a palmtop before the word "palmtop" was invented! I could
- carry it to the South Pole, if indeed I were going anywhere near there in
- the foreseeable future.
-
- Along with its portability comes endurance. The HP-15C uses relatively
- ordinary alkaline batteries that make the nickel-cadmium ones, used in most
- laptops, seem like ponderous aircraft carriers. And what sort of life
- expectancy would you expect before the batteries powered down and had to be
- replaced? Two hours? Four hours? . . . How about _six months_?! Worries
- about whether one can continue working during that cross-country flight
- vanish, like so much blue water down a 747's toilet.
-
- Finally, let me describe a hidden, yet very special attribute of the
- HP-15C. It turns out that most people are so seduced by the slim shape of
- the 15C that they ask to borrow it--even to do rudimentary tasks, like
- adding up lists of numbers. At this, I smile and sweetly ask, "Do you know
- RPN?" When this elicits the puzzled, blank expression that it invariably
- does, I know that once again my 15C will remain, shadowed in the warmth of
- my breast pocket, safe from the barbarian hordes who don't even know how to
- add numbers in Reverse Polish Notation.
-
- The HP-15C. More than just a "calculator"--it's a great and good
- friend. Shouldn't you get one, too?
-
-
-
- >>> 3RD PLACE - $25.00 GEnie Online Credit <<<
- """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
- ~ Eric Tremblay / E.TREMBLAY2 ~
-
-
- THE NeXT COMPUTER The NeXT is the choice of the future. Why? First of
- """"""""""""""""" all for it's incredible software development tools.
- Interface Builder sets a precedent in developers tools for the whole
- software industry to follow. Object-oriented programming, now that's the
- future! Development time reduced by more the 75%. Then there's
- connectivity with thin and twisted-pair Ethernet ports which makes the NeXT
- AppleShare and Novell network ready. So now you can mix a NeXT with a PC or
- an Apple network without any problems. A user interface that sets the
- standard for all workstations and personnel computers of the future. Unix
- BSD which gives you multi-user and multi-tasking with many other advantages
- that a Unix system gives you. Then there's Display PostScript which makes
- the NeXT a truly "What you see is what you get" machine. Fax integration
- that will blow you away! Let's not forget the 68040 and the DSP from
- Motorola which also sets the standard in chip technology. The NeXT floppy
- disk supports DOS 720K, 1.44 and MacIntosh formatted disks, plus the new
- Extended Density 2.88 floppy disks.
-
- On the software side of things, all the major players are there.
- Lotus treated us with their incredible Improv spreadsheet and WordPerfect
- is there with their industry standard word processor. We also have other
- interesting software like the product called Simon Says which gives your
- NeXT voice recognition and many many more applications. If that not enough
- NeXT bundles a massive amount of software with each machine. These include
- Interface Builder, C compilers, Digital Webster (with full word definitions
- and pictures!), A text editor, Digital Librarian and a Mail application
- that can include voice attachments and document attachments (like a
- spreadsheet or graphics or ...) Which other vendors namely Sun are only now
- emulating.
-
- The future is bright for NeXT with it's multi-platform port of it's
- NeXTstep environment.. NeXTstep has already been ported to the 486 and
- ports to other platforms are planned for the near future. This gives the
- user a wider choice of hardware to choose from and at the same time the
- user is not at the mercy of a specific hardware or chip vendor. The NeXT
- also has an very large public domain software selection which is growing
- rapidly as each month passes, I'll also add that the pd software rivals
- some commercial applications found on other platforms, all of this due to
- the very advanced developers tools and a great programming community. All
- of that and more for a lot less then you think! I really love my
- NeXTstation, I would not trade it for any other computer and that includes
- a Sun workstation!
-
-
- //////////////////////////////////////// GEnie_QWIK_QUOTE ////
- / "Isn't it amazing how a $6 part can fix 100's of $$$ worth /
- / of equipment?" /
- /////////////////////////////////////////// D.GILLOGLY1 ////
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- [EOA]
- [HEY]//////////////////////////////
- HEY MISTER POSTMAN /
- /////////////////////////////////
- Is That A Letter For Me?
- """"""""""""""""""""""""
- By Thomas M. Schmitz
- [TOM.SCHMITZ]
-
- o Apple II ODDS & ENDS
-
- o WHAT'S NEW?
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- o THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE
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- o APPLE HEADS WANT TO KNOW
-
- o MESSAGE SPOTLIGHT
-
-
-
- >>> Apple II ODDS & ENDS <<<
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-
- A2 UNIVERSITY PLANNED! The Apple II Roundtables (A2 and A2Pro) are
- """""""""""""""""""""" pleased to announce the fall term of A2
- University, the GEnie classes you can take from your own home for just the
- cost of GEnie time.
-
- A2 University, abbreviated A2U, teaches courses of up to 12 weeks
- duration so that you can learn the programming you want to learn. And not
- just traditional programming either!
-
- A2U's fall term features classes on two of the Apple II's hottest
- topics by experts in their fields. The first course is "Ultra 4.0 to the
- Max!", taught by world-renowned Ultra MacroWorks expert Will Nelken (read
- his stuff in A+/inCider!). Will's got a 12-part course to show any
- AppleWorks user how to get the most out of JEM Software's brand-new Ultra
- 4.0 package. If you like squeezing more power out of AppleWorks 3.0, this
- course is for you!
-
- And starting in October, A2U presents Andy McFadden (author of NuLib
- and YankIt NuFX utilities) teaching a class on data compression. From the
- concepts of how data is compressed to the specifics of today's common
- compression standards, Andy's course can teach you how to make things
- smaller.
-
- For more information on signing up for either of these courses, see
- the new category 22 in the A2Pro Bulletin Board! Classes start soon, so
- prepare to expand your knowledge here with A2Pro -- teaching you what you
- want to know! --Matt (A2Pro Head Sysop)
-
-
- MORE K-FEST STUFF Well, everyone else has done a great job of summing up
- """"""""""""""""" Kfest to date. Nobody mentioned the guys trapped in
- the broken elevator, or the frisbee, or the SoftDisk pizza orgy (which
- included a session of SoftDisk's "Word Search" game elevated to a contact
- sport), the midnight runs of Bear's monster truck, or several other things
- that occurred in the dorms, but what the heck.
-
- The important point is that you people should come to Kansasfest even
- if you aren't commercial programmers. I'm just a IIe guy who programs
- mostly in Applesoft with the occasional small assembly extension. While I
- thoroughly enjoyed the conference sessions that I attended, I didn't come
- for the conference. I came for the chance to meet and talk with the movers
- and shakers of the Apple II world. They are all terrific people, and as
- Apple ramps down the GS program it seems to me that we are all growing
- closer. I hung out in Roger Wagner's dorm room while he gave demos of
- incredible prototypes of GS hardware (Roger has the neatest toys in the
- known universe). I went to dinner with a large group that included several
- Apple people, Roger Wagner, Uncle-DOS, and others, and spent much of the
- meal having a great conversation with Joe Kohn. Peter Walker, one of the
- Aussies, adopted some of us GEnie guys and it was neat learning what it's
- like to live and compute in Australia. I spent one break listening to Greg
- Branche (of Apple) tell stories about the life of a programmer at Apple,
- Inc. I got to meet Silas Warner, Alan Bird, and many others. And on, and
- on.
-
- My favorite conference sessions were the "Old Timers" series:
-
- o Tom Weishaar and Paul Statt ran an unstructured session
- that turned into the "story hour" as Tom, Paul, and the
- many old-timers in the audience took turns telling
- anecdotes about the old days.
-
- o Silas Warner's talk on the earliest days of Muse and the
- Apple II software was fascinating. It's a whole other
- world when you program for 4K and 16K Apples that don't
- have disk drives! Silas gave us some insights into the
- assembler that they invented that made code that was next
- to impossible to disassemble.
-
- o Alan Bird and Roger Wagner ran another unstructured
- session that was largely about Bert Kersey and about
- Roger's early days. Did you know that Bert's porch had a
- trap door in front of the door of his house? Roger mused
- about how he declined to publish Print Shop because he
- judged it a stupid idea that no one would buy. Roger told
- us that he originally was either going to buy a
- motorcycle, a stereo, or a computer. He settled on the
- computer because, "Once it's paid for, there's nothing
- else to buy." There was lots more. Roger is a riveting,
- hugely amusing speaker.
-
- Some people from my User Group here in NC came all the way to Kfest
- just for the Expo, and missed the conference. The Expo was swell, but it's
- the conference that has the real action. Don't miss it next year.
- -TomZ (T.ZUCHOWSKI, Cat. 44, Top. 7, Msg. 22, M645;1)
-
-
- AND MORE K-FEST! That Ozzie's name was Peter Weller, not Walker (if I'm
- """""""""""""""" not mistaken). ;-) Funny stories? How about Don "The
- Enforcer" Grimes hefting Roger Wagner likea sack of potatoes? Thought poor
- Roger would have a heart attack right then and there.
-
- My favorite bit was spending all night talking to Tammy Wolfgram
- because she was locked out of her husband's room. Her husband (Marc
- Wolfgram, the brains behind Foundation, the new IIgs resource editor and a
- VERY hot product for programmers that I'm sure will be talked about in
- detail over in A2Pro) was stone asleep. At some point I got tired of it so
- I just walked up to the door and began pounding a very fast 4/4 in
- triple-time patter, like a drummer, until a very astounded and
- confused-looking Marc opened his door. ;-)
-
- Ah, but wait, there's more. Can anyone forget the Australian
- gentleman (whose name was Cameron, I believe) who accidentally kicked a
- soccer ball into Matt Deatherage right in the dorm hallway? Matt let out a
- yelp (he'd been hit in a rather sensitive area) and proceeded to bellow and
- chase this poor Australian around the entire dorm.
-
- It may have been covered already, but it was surely amusing. One A2
- sysop walked up to Matt after the fact and asked loudly if he was abusing
- the foreigners again. Everybody had a good laugh.
-
- Guess you had to be there.
-
- You people who didn't come missed a lot. I was way too busy myself
- during the conference to have near as much fun as I'd wanted to and I still
- had a blast. ;-) -Dean Esmay
- (A2.DEAN, Cat. 44, Top. 7, Msg. 24, M645;1)
-
-
- FAMOUS JOE AT K-FEST SPEAKS TOO! For me, the funniest thing that
- """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" happened at KansasFest happened when I
- was sitting at the inCider booth. Someone approached and said something
- like "Wow. You're Joe Kohn? You look different than I thought. Your
- writing style is so formal, I expected someone very conservative looking
- and I thought you'd be wearing a suit and tie".
-
- Another funny thing happened when I asked Steve Disbrow to do me a
- favor, and to sit in the inCider booth for a bit. He was most accommodating,
- and did as I asked. He also got Noreen to take a picture of him, wearing
- his GS+ t-shirt in front of the big inCider banner. If we're lucky, that
- picture will be on the front cover of the next GS+, with a huge banner
- announcing "GS+ Buys Out inCider". -Joe
- (J.KOHN, Cat. 44, Top. 7, Msg. 25, M645;1)
-
- Also a big thank you to Roger Wagner for all the good advice he
- provided to me (& many others) while at the Expo. Its really great to have
- such a cheerful person to talk for advice, always willing to share his
- experience with those in need. Its no wonder that this is the person who
- is almost single-handedly keeping a whole Apple product line alive. His
- helpfulness was exceeded only by his wonderful wife who actually handled my
- updates while answering a million questions from other attendees. Thanks,
- Pam! (R.CHEVRIER, Category 32, Topic 5, Message 100, M530;1)
-
-
- WHAT ABOUT THOSE YOUTHFUL PROGRAMMERS? I used to despair a lot about the
- """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" number of active younger
- programmers who seem to turn out miles of code. Then I realized that they
- have a rather protected environment, not having to maintain jobs to keep up
- house payments, support families, etc. :)
-
- It would be interesting to track the number of these folks that
- continue to crank out work when they enter the work force. Some, like Andy
- Nicholas, are good enough to go on to jobs where they can continue to use
- their skills. Many might not.
-
- Plus, sometimes it takes the discipline of a few years to come up with
- the insight for finishing really important programs (like Pointless, though
- Alan Bird isn't exactly an "old fogey"). The FTA wrote a lot of incredible
- demos, but very little of a productive nature, and productivity is the
- reason most people buy computers. Often age and cunning exceeds youthful
- exuberance... :)
- (A2-CENTRAL, Cat. 2, Top. 4, Msg. 64, M645;1)
-
-
- FEEL INTIMIDATED BY A2PRO? Our recent conversations with those of you
- """""""""""""""""""""""""" who could benefit a lot from the services
- A2Pro has to offer make us frown -- you tell us you're intimidated by
- A2Pro, that A2Pro is for the "elite" and the "hackers", and that regular
- home-type programmers are out of place there.
-
- We don't care if it's true or not -- we're going to wipe it out. One
- way we're starting is with an A2Pro Beginner's Night conference EACH AND
- EVERY WEEK. At this real time conference, no programming question is too
- silly, no development question is out of line and no questions about A2Pro
- are out of line. Period.
-
- We're going to hold these conferences every week on Thursday nights at
- 9:30 PM EDT (6:30 PM PDT, or 5:30 PM in Alaska) starting August 13th. And
- to put our money where our mouth is, we'll be giving out FREE GENIE TIME to
- random participants for the first four conferences.
- (M.DEATHERAGE, Category 1, Topic 17, Message 9, M530;1)
-
-
- A2PRO NEW USERS NIGHT CONTINUES ON 8/20 Our first new
- """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" users/beginners/folks-who-haven't-
- been-in-A2Pro-but-that's too-long-to-use-as-a-title night last Thursday was
- lots of fun -- people came, found out about what A2Pro has to offer, asked
- some programming questions they had stored up and two folks won FREE GEnie
- time.
-
- What could be better? Why, we're doing it again this Thursday night
- at 9:30 PM EDT, and folks will again win FREE GEnie time!
-
- The new users' RTC in A2Pro will happen every Thursday from now on,
- but only during the grand opening can you win GEnie time. Don't miss out
- on all the fun -- more GEnie users are having fun in A2Pro than ever
- before, and there's no reason you can't be one of them!
- (M.DEATHERAGE, Category 1, Topic 17, Message 15, M530;1)
-
-
- SO YOU FOUND A BUG BY APPLE? If you want to report the bug to _Apple_,
- """""""""""""""""""""""""""" no online service is the right place to do
- it. Apple's bug reporting center can be reached by internet Email
- (apple.bugs@applelink.apple.com), or you can US mail them at:
-
- Apple Bug Reporting Center
- Apple Computer, Inc.
- 20525 Mariani Ave., MS: 42-ES
- Cupertino, CA 95014
-
- But I'd strongly encourage you to check out A2Pro. I don't know and
- can't change what your past experiences with A2Pro have been, but if A2Pro
- can't reasonably help you out with your problem, we'll fix it.
-
- That's all we can do.
- --Matt (I speak for myself, not for Apple)
- (M.DEATHERAGE, Cat. 9, Top. 6, Msg. 112, M645;1)
-
-
-
- >>> WHAT'S NEW <<<
- """"""""""""""""""
-
- A2 LOST CLASSICS GETS APPLE WRITER 2.1 It's now official. Applewriter //
- """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" by Paul Lutus is now available as
- Freeware in the A2 library (File # 19164). When I spoke with Paul, he
- agreed to allow distribution subject to a few restrictions.
-
- 1. Any and all people may copy Applewriter // version 2.1
- ONLY. Other versions are not included in the Freeware
- statement.
-
- 2. No one shall sell Applewriter //. Nor shall anyone
- include it on a disk with other software which is being sold.
-
- 3. The documentation provided with the program was produced
- and is owned by Apple Computer Corp. The authority to
- distribute Applewriter does NOT include any copyrighted
- documentation.
-
- 4. The source code for Applewriter is still owned and
- retained by Paul Lutus. He is treating it as 'trade
- secrets' and therefore shall not disclose such source
- code. This situation is unlikely to change.
-
- 5. Paul is allowing Applewriter to be distributed as
- 'Freeware'. This means that the software is still
- copyrighted and still owned by him. It is within his
- rights to pull Applewriter out of circulation at any time
- he chooses. This also means that derivative works based
- on Applewriter code may be in a legal grey area. So tread
- carefully. :)
- (A2.TIM, Cat. 7, Top. 6, Msg. 2, M645;1)
-
- >>>>> I talked with Paul Lutus earlier this week and got a clarification
- """"" on the 'give away but do not sell' problem.
-
- Essentially, Paul has allowed Apple Writer to go Freeware, because
- he has made enough money from it, but does not want anyone else to make
- money from it at the expense of the users. TO this end, he wants it copied
- freely with no charge being made for the program. You may charge for the
- disk it is on, but this charge should be reasonable. For example, charging
- $10 for a disk with Apple Writer would be out of line, but charging $2 or
- $3 for a floppy is not. If a User's group routinely charges $3.95 for a
- filled floppy, including postage, then $3.95 for a disk with Apple Writer
- would be OK. But if they normally charge $3.95 and then charge $4.95 for
- Apple Writer, then it is NOT OK.
-
- Do you all see where I am going with this? :)
-
- Following this reasoning then, having Shareware Solutions include
- Apple Writer on its disk would not be in violation. Likewise the A2 on
- Disk could add Apple Writer safely, because the disk averages less than $4,
- and would be the same price whether or not AW were included.
-
- If you have any further questions, please ask. :)
- Hope this makes somebody happy. :)
- Tim Tobin
- A2 Head Librarian
- (A2.TIM, Cat. 7, Top. 6, Msg. 48, M645;1)
-
-
- SOUND ON YOUR II NON GS SoftDAC v2.0b1 is now available, pending release
- """"""""""""""""""""""" by the A2 sysops as file #19192. The new
- version offers improved sound quality--and it supports the RamWorks (and
- compatible memory expansion boards) to allow you to play really long
- sounds.
-
- For those of you who have never heard of SoftDAC, let me explain...in
- December 1990, I released a program for the 128K Apple IIe and IIc that
- allows these machines to play sampled sounds. Sampled sound was previously
- the exclusive domain of the Apple IIGS, Macintosh, and similar machines.
- SoftDAC allows you to play sampled sounds on the IIe and IIc without any
- extra hardware...and now it's even better, with RamWorks support.
-
- As usual, if you have questions regarding SoftDAC, you may (1) leave
- them in this topic or (2) send me email at S.ALFTER. Please note, however,
- that the Skunk Works BBS is temporarily offline, pending replacement of a
- dead power supply.
-
- _/_
- / v \
- (IIe ( Scott Alfter
- \_^_/ (S.ALFTER, Cat. 13, Top. 9, Msg. 2,M645;1)
-
-
- LISTEN UP! In recent issues, both A+/inCider and A2-Central printed
- """""""""" subscriber letters which state the HFS FST works fine under
- System Software 5.0.4.
-
- This is dangerously incorrect.
-
- While Apple tries to keep the internals of GS/OS fairly stable from
- release to release to minimize the opportunity for errors, GS/OS has always
- required substantial internal changes when new read/write file systems are
- added This was true in System Software 5.0 for AppleShare and is true in
- version 6.0 for HFS.
-
- The HFS FST may appear to work in normal circumstances (as the letters
- indicate), but the older versions of GS/OS do not meet the demands of the
- newer FST. The FST will almost certainly crash if you try to initialize
- any disks.
-
- Components from different system software versions do not mix and
- match -- do not use older system software files with newer system software
- versions GS/OS drivers are an exception -- they have a stable, documented
- interface and will work fine with any version of GS/OS later than the one
- for which they were designed, although some manufacturers may require newer
- features of newer drivers. (For example, the System Software 6.0 Apple
- 3.5" driver supports SuperDrives attached to an Apple II 3.5 Disk
- Controller Card -- while you can use the older version of the Apple 3.5
- driver safely with System Software 6.0, you won't be able to use drives
- connected to an Apple 3.5 Disk Controller Card.)
-
- Mixing and matching system software in general is dangerous -- but
- using the HFS FST under 5.0.4 will eventually crash and it may trash your
- disks. Do not attempt this with any disks online that you want to keep.
-
- Matt Deatherage
- Apple Computer, Inc.
- (AIIDTS, CAT5, TOP5, MSG:1/M645;1)
-
-
- MS-DOS FST SOON TO BE A REALITY Apple publicly announces MS-DOS FST for
- """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Apple IIGS A2 CENTRAL SUMMER CONFERENCE
- 1992 ("KANSASFEST"), KANSAS CITY, MO., U.S.A., 1992 JUL 23 (A2 ON GENIE)
- -- Apple publicly announced today that they are working on an MS-DOS File
- System Translator (FST) for the Apple IIGS. Currently the FST is
- read-only, and writing ability is being worked on. It is not expected that
- the writing ability will be ready in time for its initial release. The
- MS-DOS FST is expected to ship with Apple IIGS System Software version
- 6.0.1.
-
- Apple IIGS System Software 6.0.1 is a maintenance release made
- necessary by the Apple II Ethernet Card. When the Apple II Ethernet Card
- ships, expected by the end of the year, System 6.0.1 will be made
- available. Besides bug fixes to System 6.0, the only other major change
- announced in System 6.0.1 is the addition of keyboard navigation to the
- Apple IIGS Finder.
-
- The MS-DOS FST will work on any MS-DOS volume that can be accessed by
- the Apple IIGS. Currently, the access of MS-DOS 3.5" disks is limited to
- 720K and 1.44M MS-DOS 3.5" disks read via an Apple SuperDrive or
- equivalent, connected to the Apple II SuperDrive Card (formerly known as
- the Apple II 3.5 Drive Card). Other known methods to access MS-DOS data on
- an Apple IIGS include MS-DOS formatted Syquest cartridges and MS-DOS 5.25"
- floppy disks read via an Applied Engineering Transdrive, connected to an
- Applied Engineering PC Transporter card.
- (Lunatic E'Sex, reporting for A2, the Apple II Roundtable on GEnie)
- -= Lunatic (:
- (LUNATIC, Cat. 9, Top. 7, Msg. 1, M645;1)
-
-
- MORE ON MS-DOS FST ][ talked to Greg Branche after the System 6.0 session
- """""""""""""""""" the following morning. It turns out that the MS-DOS
- FST is based largely on the ProDOS FST! Greg started work on the MS-DOS
- FST as a side project, after he had already transferred out of the Apple II
- division. Once he got it to a certain point, he turned over the code to
- Dave Lyons. They haven't even really started on the write portion, yet.
- The big problem with writing to MS-DOS disks is forked files. There are
- currently two or three completely different methods that are used to store
- Mac forked files on MS-DOS volumes, and they don't know if they want to
- choose one of those or try something else (there simply is no standard, and
- it doesn't look like there's going to _be_ one).
-
- Since the Atari ST uses a disk format almost identical to MS-DOS with
- a few variations, Greg said it's likely the MS-DOS FST could read Atari ST
- disks, as well, but he didn't have any ST disks to try out on it (if I can
- scare up some Atari disks I think I'll run over to Monroe 4 and see if Dave
- wants to try 'em out). I mentioned Amiga disks, but nothing conclusive was
- decided about them.
-
- |)
- |\ight now, the MS-DOS FST uses file name/file type translation that
- is identical to (and taken from) the High Sierra/ISO 9660 FST. For
- example, FILENAME.TXT is translated into a text file. I suggested
- assigning new aux types in the $E0 file type to certain common archive
- types, such as .ARC and .ZIP, but they said they didn't want to do anything
- with aux types, right now, just file types. Of course, anyone with the
- GS/OS Reference can look in the chapter on the High Sierra FST to get the
- data on Map Tables and create a new Map Table for the MS-DOS FST (like
- assigning .DOC files to text files, as well). -= Lunatic (:
- (LUNATIC, Cat. 9, Top. 7, Msg. 2, M645;1)
-
-
- GraFORTH IS A LOST CLASSIC! It's now official. GraFORTH by Paul Lutus
- """"""""""""""""""""""""""" is also now available as Freeware in the A2
- library (File # 19206). When I spoke with Paul, he agreed to allow
- distribution subject to a few restrictions:
-
- 1. Any and all people may copy GraFORTH.
-
- 2. No one shall sell GraFORTH. Nor shall anyone include it
- on a disk with other software which is being sold.
-
- 3. The source code for GraFORTH is still owned and retained
- by Paul Lutus. He is treating it as 'trade secrets' and
- therefore shall not disclose such source code. This
- situation is unlikely to change.
-
- 4. Paul is allowing GraFORTH to be distributed as
- 'Freeware'. This means that the software is still
- copyrighted and still owned by him. It is within his
- rights to pull GraFORTH out of circulation at any time he
- chooses. This also means that derivative works based on
- GraFORTH code may be in a legal grey area. So tread
- carefully. :)
-
- Tim Tobin / Lost Classics Coordinator
- (A2.TIM, Cat. 7, Top. 6, Msg. 22, M645;1)
-
-
- BUT WHAT DOES IT DO? GraFORTH is a DOS 3.3 based graphical version of
- """""""""""""""""""" FORTH for the Apple II. It also has music and sound
- routines built in. Several demos are included as samples. These samples
- include animation routines, and music. I particularly like 'Die Fledermaus'
- which has a bat, with smoothly flapping wings, flying though the moonlit
- night sky.
-
- It is quite good, the only drawback being the fact that it is DOS 3.3.
- Anything in particular you would like to know?
- Tim Tobin / A2 Head Librarian
- (A2.TIM, Cat. 7, Top. 12, Msg. 4, M645,1)
-
-
- APPLENET ANNOUNCEMENTS Here are a couple of announcements concerning
- """""""""""""""""""""" AppleNET v2.0. First, thanks to Michel Donais, a
- friend of mine, and a "sometime" developer for AppleNET v2.0, we'll be
- using the auxiliary bank of Applesoft memory to store most system
- variables. That means, we'll have plenty more memory space for the overall
- system. The auxiliary memory partition, as it is now, will contain the
- menu and configurable BBS variables, as well as (perhaps) data on system
- events, accounting information, etc.. Once we're done with all the major
- stuff, I'll see if I can stuff the message editor variables in there for
- even greater memory space. But right now, the routine works like a charm!
- (It uses the same syntax as MW 3.0's & STORE command.)
-
- As well, unless any other suggestions are received for AppleNET 2.0's
- "new" name, most of the people up here have agreed on AppleNET Pro v2.0 as
- the program's "rebuilt" name. Didn't I say this was going to be a complete
- rewrite from the ground up, including its name? <g>
-
- And one more thing. If you are on Fidonet, I will soon be getting
- access to a Fidonet node, so you'll see me there once again. So, if you're
- an AppleNET sysop (or not!), feel free to drop me a line there once I do
- get my account. I'll be offering updates, news, and support on AppleNET
- Pro v2.0 and older versions of the BBS software. -Derek Fong
- (M.POTTER4, Cat. 41, Top. 3, Msg. 64, M645;1)
-
-
- BYTE WORKS RELEASES ORCA/C
- """" PROTOTYPED HEADERS (ALPHA VERSION) If you use ORCA/C and like the
- """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" ANSI C features, you may have
- wished that the header files provided included function prototypes to help
- you with your programming. Well, wait no more!
-
- Mike Westerfield from the Byte Works has uploaded an ALPHA version of
- prototyped headers for ORCA/C. You can download and start using them now,
- and if you find any problems or have any suggestions, it's still well
- within time to make suggestions to Mike for inclusion in the final product.
- Note that since these are ALPHA releases, no one's promising they won't
- change before final, so if you use any in final software, be sure to keep a
- copy around so you can rebuild later.
-
- You can find the ORCA/C header files in A2Pro's library in file #2796,
- CHEADERS.BXY. Download them today and make ORCA/C work for _you!_
- (M.DEATHERAGE, Category 1, Topic 17, Message 13, M530;1)
-
-
- NEW HUMAN INTERFACE CATEGORY DEBUTS A2Pro's bulletin board has a new
- """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" category -- "The Human Interface and
- You." This new category (#21) has room to discuss all the issues
- programmers face when trying to make people understand how to use their
- work. If you've ever had any questions or personal peeves you wanted to
- discuss, Cat 21 in the A2Pro bulletin board is for you. Check it out!
- (M.DEATHERAGE, Category 1, Topic 17, Message 14, M530;1)
-
-
-
- >>> THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE <<<
- """""""""""""""""""""""""""""
-
- IBM-GS ??? We are not sure where this started, but some reliable sources
- """""""""" are talking about a IIGS on a card for the PC and its
- clones. Obviously such a development would make production of Avatar much
- easier and there has been some sketchy talk of a licensing deal between the
- developers. This has neither been confirmed nor denied by Bill Heineman,
- Avatar's would be creator, at the time of this writing.
-
- It should be noted that IIe's on a card already exist for the IBM PC.
- This author wonders, if software can emulate the Macintosh on an Amiga, why
- the same cannot be done for for the IIGS? And do not give the ancient
- Esoniq chip excuse. If the IIGS can play a Mod, the Amiga can easily play
- SoundSmith and other IIGS music systems. (Editor)
-
-
- MORE ON IIGS EMULATOR FOR 386/486 COMPUTERS
- """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
- Unfortunately, there's not a lot of info available, due (IMO) to
- Apple, Inc.'s propensity for spending tons of money on rabid lawyers to
- litigate the competition out of existence.
-
- As for what software will run on the emulator; it uses active
- translation at the ML level from 65816 code to 80386 code. The GS tools are
- fully translated to Windows API calls, so it will run ANY GS specific
- software that uses standard calls. Sorry, but I think that probably rules
- out FTA stuff and maybe even IIe/c software. But there are already Apple II
- emulators available.
-
- Speed-wise, it runs GS software on a 25 MHz 386 just a little faster
- than a standard (non-zipped) GS, so I'm sure an 8 Mhz GS will still blow
- it's doors off.
-
- Personally, I'm looking forward to seeing the full product!
- (R.CLYDE4 [Niccolo], Cat. 1, Top. 4, Msg. 22, M530;1)
-
-
- WHAT'S THAT? I have heard that Ken Franklin is about to release another
- """""""""""" dynamite ReliefWare program.
- (A2.BEAR, Cat. 5, Top. 3, Msg. 36, M645;1)
-
-
- TECH TALK I recall reading that for QuickDraw II version 3.x, the screen
- """"""""" is guaranteed to be at E12000. I need to double check, but I
- read it in an article by Mike Westerfield on filling areas in Call-Apple
- very long ago. Depending on QDVersion, he either used QD calls or screen
- memory directly.
-
- Should CloseView alter the QD version in the chance that some apps
- will change from directly accessing memory to using QD calls? -Jay
- (J.KRELL1 [Jay], Category 15, Topic 4, Message 51, M530;1)
-
-
-
- >>> APPLE HEADS WANT TO KNOW <<<
- """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
-
- SOUND TALK |\|o, MODs are pretty sure to take the most processor time,
- """""""""" and SoundSmith songs the least. To play a MOD you usually
- have to do a lot of swapping of instruments in the DOC RAM, since MODs can
- have up to 128K instruments. The processor hit to play a MOD is probably
- 50-80% or even more. SoundSmith music playing takes very little extra
- processor time -- lots of games use SoundSmith music. From what I
- understand, you set everything up in the DOC RAM and then let a little
- interrupt driven routine do all the work for you, while you go off and do
- your animation/etc. MIDI Synth music has also been used in games (the
- only one that comes to mind right now is Dragon Wars GS; I think Bill
- Heineman wrote another one that uses MIDI Synth, too). Since it uses a
- tool that's built in to the system, it should also be pretty easy to use.
- That's not saying anything about getting the music INTO the software,
- though. I'd say use MIDI Synth if you can spare the little extra processor
- time, or SoundSmith if not. -= Lunatic (:
- (LUNATIC, Category 11, Topic 11, Message 10, 530;1)
-
- --
- Jerry Penner jpenne@ee.ualberta.ca Try a 1-line .sig today.
-