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- From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
- Subject: Re: AE Flopticals...RamFAST & TAPE DRIVES
- Message-ID: <1992Sep9.105436.27785@cco.caltech.edu>
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- Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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- Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 10:54:36 GMT
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- posty@socs.uts.edu.au (Andrew Roughan) writes:
-
- >OR, these drives may have the "active termination" feature which caused
- >Todd to blow his PLI drive up.
-
- Actually it just got flakier as time went on. I sent that one back and bought
- the Tulin drive a couple weeks later.
-
- >Richard "SCSI Part, The Snail" Bennett has written a GS/OS SCSI driver for
- >these drives. He is currently waiting on Insite to deliver the technical
- >doco on the mechanism before he releases it.
-
- Well Insite only took 5 days (including the weekend) to get them to me, and I'm
- in the same state. If he has any specific questions have him mail me here on
- punisher and I'll type in the specific bits he wants to know. They're quite
- interesting reading, maybe I should just xerox the lot and ship it to CVT :)
-
- >1)There are currently 3 known drivers for floptical drives.
- >-Tulin sells one with thier drives.
-
- Theirs is not available yet, it is in beta testing and should be available any
- day now. I called Tulin last week and they said they would call me at work when
- the driver was ready. I assume that all of these are for the DMA SCSI right?
- I still need to track down my lead on a cheap one, which I am only getting so I
- can use the floptical as it was meant to be used :( . This means I'll have a
- RamFast for the quantum and a DMA SCSI for the floptical. bleagh.
-
- >2)The current floptical drives only use MFM encoding. This means that 800k
- >GS disks (GCR encoding) can not be read by these drives.
-
- This is correct.
-
- >3)The AE Floptical drive requires a "mode sense call" before either a "write"
- >call or a "format" call.
-
- The Insite mechanism itself requires this. I quote:
- "The drive contains a write lock feature which prohibits write, reassign, or
- format operations until an unlock sequence is executed. The purpose of this
- feature is to prevent media modification until the initiator determines the
- target drive type. The lock is set by a power-up or SCSI reset. The initiator
- resets the lock by executing a Mode Sense command requesting Mode Page 2EH with
- an allocation length exactly equal to the returned data length (including the
- effect of the DBD bit)."
- This DBD bit looks like part of the CCS standard and indicates the omission of
- an 8 byte section that comes between the header and the 30 byte Page 2EH block.
-
- >Richard has done this and expects to make his tape backup program "The Snail"
- >work with the RamFAST. He "may" look into writing a GS/OS SCSI driver for
- >tape drives on a RamFAST.
-
- This would be nice. CVT has not made it particularly easy but it is possible.
- My congratulations to Richard.
-
- >BTW: According to Richard (so don't flame me) tape drives are actually
- >block orientated devices. Apple's SCSITAPE is a character device driver only
- >because it is more logical to think of a tape drive as a sequential medium.
-
- Block orientated, yes, random access, usually not. GS/OS defines a 'block
- device' to be random access, and a 'character device' to be sequential access.
- This is the important distinction that I've been trying to get across, and you
- have made me realize that GS/OS really should be using 'random-access device'
- and 'sequential-access device' instead. My apologizes to anyone whose ego I
- bruised because I expected them to not be fooled by the confusing terms.
-
- >My feeling on this is that SCSITAPE will work with both character and block
- >orientated tape drives (IF character orientated tape drives exist).
-
- You might want to rephrase this in light of the previous paragraph but it's
- no biggie -- I think we're on the same wavelength finally.
-
- Todd Whitesel
- toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
-