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- From: ujlh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (James Henrickson)
- Subject: Re: WANT GCC? FORGET FAQ.GCC AND README?? READ THIS FIRST!!!!
- Message-ID: <1992Sep5.233004.7094@pool.info.sunyit.edu>
- Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
- References: <186a86INNcsb@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
- Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 23:30:04 GMT
- Lines: 181
-
- WARNING: FLAME IS LIT. IF YOU'VE ALREADY READ ENOUGH ABOUT THIS
- FLAKY POST, PLEASE GO ON TO THE NEXT ONE.
-
- In article <186a86INNcsb@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis) writes:
- >
- >Since it seems that there aren't any installation docs for us
- >lay people when it comes to installing GCC 2.2.2d, I figured that
- >I would write this to help people who are having and will have
- >problems with the installation.
-
- It appears that you are upset because you didn't understand the
- directions. Please define the term "lay people", you make it seem
- like you are speaking for a large number of people. :-)
-
- >
- >First, I will assume you have mtools installed. If not, then do. Email
- >me for some tips if you need help.
-
- Oh, I'm starting to get it now. By "lay people", you are referring
- to DOS people that are new to Linux. [Regular Linux users: you can
- stop reading his instructions now. Chances are you use a Linux
- communications program for file transfers.]
-
- >You need to get the following files by anonymous ftp from tsx-11.mit.edu.
- >
- >binutils.tar.Z
- >097pl1inc.tar.Z
- >2.2.2ddb.tar.Z
- >2.2.2dlib.tar.Z
- >2.2.2dmisc.tar.Z
- >install.2.x
- >
- >Forget README and FAQ.
- >THEY JUST AREN'T WORTH THE TIME READING!!!!!!!!!!!
-
- In your opinion. So it's OK to use a great compiler that costs
- nothing and then criticize the guy for not writing in a way that
- YOU understand?
-
- >You can find the above in /pub/linux/packages/GCC
- >
- >You will also need 097.tar.Z (or something like that) from
- >/pub/linux/sources/system
- >This is the linux source code. Get the patches if you want them.
- >(I personally haven't figured out what to do with them. :) )
-
- What is this "something like that" crap? If you expect people
- to ignore the official docs and follow only your instructions,
- you should be specific. And you have the nerve to criticize
- HJ's docs. Really.
-
- >So now you have these files. Hopefully they were transfered without any
- >corruption. Unfortunately they are VERY large, so I would get corrupted
- >ones about every 5th try. And you won't find this out until you're in
- >LINUX and then you'll have to reboot into DOS. Major frustration.
-
- If you were a regular Linux user, you wouldn't need DOS to get the
- files and you would use a transfer protocol that provides you with
- error detection. I haven't had ANY file corruption, and I have been
- downloading EVERYTHING at 2400 baud since April. I used DOS to get
- the initial bootimage, rootimage, kermit, and [xyz]modem, and have
- used Linux for downloads ever since. Another nice feature is I get
- to do things on other VC's while the file transfer is taking place.
- Can you do THAT with DOS?
-
- >BTW, these files should be in a DOS dir and they WILL take up alot of memory.
- >I think about 5MB.
- >
- >Now reboot into LINUX and login as root. Now follow these commands.
- >
- >cd /
- >mcd c:\<the dos dir with the above files>
- >mcopy c:*.* .
- >
- >That should get all those files into the LINUX root dir.
- >Now, change their names using the mv (move) command.
- >
- >mv <fucked up dos filename now in linux> <new filename>
-
- For DOS users, I agree with that part. Now for a real winner:
-
- >Do it according to these transformations:
- >install.2.x ---------> install.2.x
- >binutils.tar.Z -------> binutils.tar.Z
- >2.2.2ddb.tar.Z -------> 2ddb.tar.Z
- >2.2.2dlib.tar.Z ------> 2dlib.tar.Z
- >2.2.2dmisc.tar.Z -----> 2dmisc.tar.Z
- >097pl1inc.tar.Z ------> 097inc.tar.Z
- >097.tar.Z ------------> 097.tar.Z
-
- Nope, wrong, incorrect, bad, no good, just don't do it! You are
- making this more difficult than it has to be. Of course, most
- people that read the instructions (the ones you obviously dislike
- so much) would know better. I renamed the files the first time
- around because I didn't read the directions until after I screwed
- up.
-
- >remember that these names on the left will be REALLY screwed up!!!!
- >keep track of them.........
- >The reason that we have to do all this crap is because LINUX has a
- >limitation on length of filenames. UNIX doesn't have them.
-
- I hope you aren't implying that ALL UNIX systems have long file names.
- There are exceptions.
-
- Anyway, so what? It's obvious that you also haven't been following
- this newsgroup, because it has been pointed out several times that
- the truncated file names work OK. Maybe you need your own newsgroup,
- comp.os.i.cant.follow.directions.
-
- >DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THIS CAN BE CHANGED??????
-
- What do you think the extended file system is? It's been in alpha
- testing quite a while now. As I said already, it looks like you
- haven't been following the newsgroup. Besides, the minix file
- system will still be around for a long time because most of us are
- using it.
-
- >Now we need to install the kernel sources.
- >
- >cd /usr
- >mkdir src
- >cd src
- >mkdir linux
- >cd /
- >cp 097.tar.Z /usr/src/linux
- >cd /usr/src/linux
- >uncompress 097.tar.Z
- >tar -xvf 097.tar
-
- You are wrong again. The Linux kernel source gets extracted in the
- /usr/src directory. Otherwise (unless something has drastically changed),
- your source code will end up in /usr/src/linux/linux. I know some
- people like to keep their stuff in non-standard directories (like when
- keeping different versions of the kernel), but the usual place us
- /usr/src/linux. Maybe you should also read the kernel docs, or did
- you have trouble understanding them, too?
-
- [ A whole bunch of unnecessary instructions deleted. ]
-
- >unfortunately....I can't find make. And I haven't an editor. My vi
- >doesn't work yet.
-
- Then why do you need GCC? Maybe vi really works and you didn't
- understand the instructions for that, either.
-
- >BTW, if you don't like these instruction, screw you. It worked for me :)
-
- Screw yourself. :)
-
- You are only going to confuse people with these sloppy directions. It
- has been my understanding (and experience, until I saw your flaky post)
- that comp.os.linux readers like to help one another. You just like to
- be different.
-
- >Hopefully this will motivate someone (in authority?) to make this
- >installation process a little easier.
-
- Yeah, by adding just one sentence to the instructions: BE SURE TO
- *NOT* RENAME THE FILES. IF THE FILE NAMES GET TRUNCATED (LIKE THEY
- DO WITH THE MINIX FS), IT'S STILL OK. Oh well, two sentences. :-)
-
- [Knowing HJ, he'll probably repeat it 5 or 10 times!]
-
- (I will now write as though he's not reading this, as he probably
- has a smart news reader and canceled this thread before reading
- any of the replies. After all, who in their right mind would
- post something that silly and expect to NOT get flamed?)
-
- I don't know where people like this come from. Every once in a
- while we get a really flaky post. Remember that guy several months
- ago that couldn't MORALLY use Linux because it didn't support every
- brand of video card or mouse at the time? And then he was silly
- enough to post again, in response to the flames he was getting!
-
- (Go figure.)
- --
- Jim H.
- *
- * James L. Henrickson
- * ujlh@sunyit.edu "Some day I might have a real .signature!"
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