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- From: ak45ldp@Texaco.com (Larry D. Pyeatt)
- Subject: Re: Is Modula-2 dead?
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- References: <1992Aug20.134358.25702@informatik.uni-bremen.de> <714374380snx@black.demon.co.uk> <36848@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu> <1992Aug28.125029.26916@texhrc.uucp> <1992Sep8.101657.1@wombat.newcastle.edu.au>
- Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:34:04 GMT
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- In article <1992Sep8.101657.1@wombat.newcastle.edu.au>, eepjm@wombat.newcastle.edu.au (Peter Moylan) writes:
- |> In article <36848@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu>, bmr@retiree.cis.ufl.edu (Benedict Rafanello) writes:
- |>
- |> > Modula-2 isn't dead yet, and looks to be doing well in Europe. Maybe this
- |> > country will wake up and the "C" craze the will pass. :)
- |>
- |> In article <1992Aug28.125029.26916@texhrc.uucp>, ak45ldp@Texaco.com (Larry D. Pyeatt) writes:
- |>
- |> > Don't count on it, Ben. For some reason, most Americans have a dislike for "good"
- |> > programming languages. If only Wirth had been an American...
- |>
- |> It's tempting to compare this with the Fortran vs. Algol situation in the
- |> early 1970s. At that time Algol-60 was very popular in Europe, and
- |> Fortran was very popular in the U.S. Because of the strong dominance
- |> of the U.S.A. in the computer field, and in particular because of the
- |> influence of IBM, the Europeans didn't have much leverage, and Algol-60
- |> became very much a minority language.
- |>
- |> The new factors now are that the U.S. no longer has quite the influence
- |> which it used to have, that compilers are no longer big-budget items,
- |> and that individual computer users now have greater freedom to choose
- |> their languages, rather than being confined to the one or two
- |> languages decently supported on the central computer.
- |>
- |> One of the many reasons for the popularity of C is that C is not Ada.
- |> This matters a lot in the U.S., I suspect, because of the DoD pressure,
- |> but it is less of a factor in the rest of the world.
-
- I think that another reason for the popularity of C stems from the way that
- Americans traditionally write programs. A large percentage of American
- software is written by super-hackers. i.e. one or two people write all
- of the code, and the other team members just stand around and make the
- coffee. In this type of setting, the flexibility of C is more important
- than the features provided by Euro-style languages. This situation is
- changing in the U.S. as the concept of group programming is finally catching
- on here. Hopefully, more Americans will come to realize that C and C++ are
- not well suited to development of large systems by teams of programmers.
-
- |> Now, none of these factors necessarily means that Modula-2 will
- |> become a winner; but nor do they mean that it will become a loser.
- |> American preferences are no longer a dominating factor.
-
- I agree that American influence carries a great deal less weight than
- in the past. I also think that this is a good thing. ( Hope I don't
- get shot as a traitor! :^)
-
- |> I'd be curious to know what is popular in the countries with
- |> expanding economies - parts of south-east Asia, for example.
-
- So would I.
-
- |> --
- |> Peter Moylan eepjm@wombat.newcastle.edu.au
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