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- From: tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May)
- Newsgroups: comp.arch
- Subject: Re: Computer architects forced to change careers. NOT!
- Message-ID: <x+tnpl#.tcmay@netcom.com>
- Date: 10 Sep 92 04:51:15 GMT
- References: <1992Sep9.213319.7894@fasttech.uucp>
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- zeke@fasttech.uucp (Bohdan Tashchuk) writes:
-
- : Take a look at the history of the Intel 432. Was there ever a computer
- : architecture that was a worse disaster?
- :
- : And yet, those most directly responsible were (at least initially) allowed an
- : almost completely free hand to architect what eventually became the Intel 960.
- : The proprietary crud that was left in the 960 after some sanity prevailed
- : became the cornerstone of BiiN's non-contribution to the computer industry.
- :
- : Probably $100e6 down the drain between the 432 and BiiN. Not even taking into
-
- Ironically, I just posted a few thoughts on the 432 over in
- comp.sys.intel just yesterday. You might want to take a look. While
- the 8800/432/Gemini/Biib/960 saga is a long and convoluted one (and is
- arguably not over yet, as the 960 has gotten a lot of design wins), I
- think you're being simplistic in your characterization.
-
- :
- : The concept of reward for a job well done and punishment for an abject
- : failure doesn't exist in many high-technology companies.
-
- Not true. Successes are rewarded, failures aren't. People leave
- companies, etc. But companies like Intel---and I was at Intel from
- 1974 to 1986---don't shitcan engineers just because an effort failed!
- Mistakes are made, that's the nature of high tech.
-
- : The 432 should be studied in all engineering schools as an example of
- : how NOT to design and implement a computer architecture.
- :
- : When screwups like this happen, a LOT of people get hurt in the
- : resulting layoffs that endear the company to Wall Street.
-
- I agree the 432 should be studied. I'm surprised that none of the
- principals (one of whom later started Intel's iPSC supercomputer
- effort, which is doing very well) has written a detailed case history
- of what went wrong and what went right.
-
- As for your next comment, are you suggesting that with more careful
- planning mistakes can be eliminated? In any case, I don't recall
- seeing massive layoffs at Intel at any time.
-
- --Tim
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