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- Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 12:44:36 CST
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- From: Thomas Baines <bainest@SMTPLINK.EID.ANL.GOV>
- Subject: RE: Sciences and Ideologies - I
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- My wife & I have three children. Girl, boy, boy. All are
- out of college & are "responsible adults"...as far as we
- know. All three are doing well in professions & seem to be
- sane. We know of no serious anti-social behavior.
- What I am about to say will probably mortify some folks, but
- I believe it to be accurate. Our kids were raised much the
- same way we raise our dogs. First they are housebroken &
- taught the rudiments of personal hygene & responsibility for
- personal actions. With the kids its a little easier,
- because the language barrier is not as difficult. The dogs
- learn faster up to a point, however. The next thing is
- learning how to learn. This requires figuring out what the
- kid (or dog) pays attention to, then using that as the
- channel through which to impart knowledge & stimulate
- curiosity. Next, necessary limits on curiosity and behavior
- must be imparted. Both kids & dogs must be socialized lest
- they get killed crossing the road or someone dangerous.
- Also, they must be socialized so that they do not become
- unable to learn how to recognize when their behavior is
- likely to result in their not being able to obtain adequate
- food, clothing, shelter & affection. In order to make any
- progress on these latter points, one must, again, establish
- reference signals that are personnaly meaningful to the
- child/dog. Any insistance on my part to force the kid or
- pup to see things my way have been pretty fruitless. I
- have to see things their way, then establish why their
- viewpoint is in error. By the way. I am an ex-Army Special
- Operations Officer. I don't think I'm a patsy. BUT!! I
- have NEVER had to resort to "Because I said so." Both kids
- & dogs will come to respect your judgement about things if
- you have established a way of expressing that judgement in
- referrence to things they value, & the result of which is an
- experience that they can rely on for making their own
- judgement in the future. Inconsistant messages or behavior
- on my part always causes more problems than the kind of
- working through the situation so that both of us are
- satisfied.
- The lastest dog, by the way, fetches the paper (in the
- snow), closes the door behind herself, brings her leash when
- its time to go for a walk, leaves the kitchen or dining room
- when the humans sit down to eat, & is generally a great
- pleasure to share time with.
- Whatever we're doing, it works.
-