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- From: kadie@eff.org (Carl M. Kadie)
- Subject: Abstract of CAF-News 02.39
- Message-ID: <1992Sep15.105908.21607@eff.org>
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- Organization: The Electronic Frontier Foundation
- Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 10:59:08 GMT
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- This is an abstract for the most recent "Computers and Academic
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- --- begin abstract ---
- [Week ending August 9th, 1992
-
- ========================== KEY ================================
- The words after the numbers are a short PARAPHRASES of the
- articles, or QUOTES from them, NOT AN OBJECTIVE SUMMARY and
- not necessarily my opinion.
- ===============================================================
-
- Notes 1 to 6 discuss the censorship of pornographic material. This
- discussion stems from the decision of some Canadian universities to
- stop receiving the alt.sex.* newsgroups because they offend some and
- are allegedly illegal.
-
- 1. To claim that human beings are forced to become criminal in their
- actions merely by exposure to depictions of criminal activity is
- clearly false, and to argue in favour of the censorship of certain
- material on that basis is equally false.
- <1992Aug3.122757.1104@hubcap.clemson.edu>
-
- 2. "If the [alt.sex.bondage] community could bring itself to cancel the illegal
- articles, and put them in another newsgroup which Canada could block,
- then there would be no reason to block a.s.b, and the universities
- would feel freer to get it back."
- <1992Aug5.001511.27836@cs.sfu.ca>
-
- 3. "I find it odd that people can't see a distinction between [the
- Fascist or Stalinist restriction of rational debate of ideas], and the
- kind of censorship of socially undesirable non-rhetorical material
- which has been practised for centuries all over the world -- including
- the US under the Constitution and the First Amendment."
- <1992Aug6.185205.250@cs.sfu.ca>
-
- 4. "What right is being defended when my speech [is] banned because of
- your mores. The 'right' not to have other people violate your mores?
- If there is such a right then there is no room for other rights...
- Here is some of the history of government suppression of sexual
- materials..."
- <1992Aug7.151318.9822@eff.org>
-
- 5. Here is a list of some studies which have investigated the
- relationship between pornography and violence.
- <1992Aug7.151709.9915@eff.org>
-
- 6. "I am not concerned with harm. I have no doubt at all that [some
- books have had] a mainly pernicious influence on the world. But I know
- that the way to counter lies is with truth, not suppression.
- Censorship only increases the harm, and dilutes freedom with the very
- tyranny we claim to oppose."
- <xczmsjg.barry@netcom.com>
-
-
- Notes 7 to 9 are on issues related to the censorship of material based
- on content.
-
- 7. The president of the University of British Columbia, in Canada,
- recently circulated a letter in which he described his intention to
- ensure that "university property is not being used to access, create
- or store pornographic material on university computing equipment."
- <DALTON.92Jul31231305@oligo.Geop.UBC.CA>
-
- 8. "There are _many_ newsgroups which are offensive to various
- religious bodies - ranging from soc.bi to alt.atheism to alt.drugs.
- In _each_ of these cases, one or more religions could make as valid a
- case for removing the group as could be made for the removal of
- alt.moslem.wanted.gay. Yet, _none_ of those cases would justify their
- removal. If Usenet is to have any value as a tool of communications,
- it _must_ be totally free of any form of censorship. This includes
- censorship based on political, moral, OR religious grounds."
- <30smyck.adamsr@netcom.com>
-
- 9. People at the University of Massachusetts at Boston are permitted
- to store any material they wish in private files, make any of their
- files publicly readable, create any mailing list, and post anything to
- Usenet. What they may not do is display, for instance on a publicly
- visible X-terminal, material that could not be given a `PG-13' rating.
- <BETSYS.92Aug3155829@ra.cs.umb.edu>
-
- - Elizabeth]
-
- --- end abstract ---
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