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- From: bmc@mayo.edu (Bruce Cameron)
- Subject: Re: Life at Conception? [prev: Legal Questions]
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- Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 19:45:28 GMT
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- In article <sexe7jq@Unify.Com>, sean@Unify.com (Sean P. Curley) writes:
- |>
- |> In my mind the debate over abortion comes down to whether or not the ____ is
- |> a zybote/fetus or a child (read human) at conception (reference my article on
- |> abortion in historical comparision in alt.abortion.inequity). If it is not
- |> human then you can do any bloody thing you want to it (please no slams from
- |> animal lovers), but if it _is_ human then abortion is pre-meditated murder.
- |>
- |> You can't take your argument half way just because it gets you to where you
- |> want to be. People that say the ____ is human at conception and don't consider
- |> abortion murder are self-serving people comming up with incomplete arguments.
- |>
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- The fetus is a member of the human species from the moment of conception.
- It is alive (as are the ova and sperm that created it). It is acceptable
- to kill it, just as it is acceptable to kill born members of the human
- species under societally approved situations.
-
- The termination of that life is no different then the termination of any
- other life (life being cellular respiration and growth) and it is simply
- hubris on the part of humans to classify our lives as more valuable then
- any other life. As for an act of pre-meditated murder, can there be anything
- more premeditated then the raising and subsequent slaughter of an animal
- for food?
-
- Now, if human life is more "valuable" then animal life, what factors make it
- so and are those factors immutable? Is it this "value" that makes it wrong to
- terminate human life? Now, if the factors that determine "value" are immutable
- and that "value" makes termination wrong why shouldn't war be considered
- murder on a grand scale? Now, if the factors that determine this "value" are
- changable, how does one test for their presence?
-
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- --Bruce
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- "Truth is ultimately a philosophical concept,...,
- and standards of truth are adequate for practical
- purposes if they are substantially more reliable
- then the system undergoing evaluation"
- C. E. Metz
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