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- From: chrisl@stpaul.gov (Chris A Lyman)
- Subject: Re: Proposal for a moderated abortion newsgroup
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- Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 19:42:57 GMT
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- exukjb@exu.ericsson.se (ken bell) writes:
-
- > Uhmm. Here's a (hopefully) dispassionate suggestion about abortion. No
- > federal legislation. Leave it to the lower courts to decide each case on its
- > own merits, just as we now let courts decide cases of other kinds of
- > killing. We let courts decide whether a specific instance of killing was
- > manslaughter, murder, etc. Since both parties to the abortion debate
- > concede that not all abortions are murders but may sometimes be killings,
- > why not let the trial courts handle them case by case? Why should acts of
- > abortion be treated any different from other acts of killing?
-
- Ken, there are ~1.5 million abortions every year in the U.S. You want to tie
- up the courts with a 'case by case' construction of abortion law? Let me
- guess; you're a starving lawyer?
-
- Btw, many pro-lifers do _not_ concede that abortion is not murder.
-
- > If this suggestion is largely acceptable, then the abortion debate can
- > then come to center almost exclusively on the question of whether abortions
- > are [at least] prima facia killings. Since not all killings are unjustified
- > killings (i.e. murders,etc), it should then be left to juries to decide
- > whether, e.g., a woman is having or had an abortion in the third timester
- > just to avoid having to postpone a trip to Europe or in the interest of
- > her own life or health.
-
- Your cynical remark about trips to Europe deserves a sharp reply. Here's
- one I saw in alt.politics.bush:
-
- In alt.politics.bush, alt.politics.elections, alt.fan.dan-quayle,
- williams@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Kent Williams) writes:
-
- >> I don't even regard abortion as a "necessary evil." It is a medical
- >> procedure, & one that women employ as an absolute last resort. It is
- >> a vicious, unfounded, cynical republican conservative myth that there
- >> is an army of women out there that "got drunk, got laid, got pregnant,
- >> got scraped." without a second thought.
-
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