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- From: ethan@ut-emx.uucp (Ethan Tecumseh Vishniac)
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- Subject: Re: Dr. Fabrikant and honesty in science
- Summary: multiple authorship
- Message-ID: <78859@ut-emx.uucp>
- Date: 1 Sep 92 19:02:56 GMT
- References: <1992Aug27.132822.4428@bb1t.monsanto.com> <DASU.92Aug31231325@sscux1.ssc.gov>
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- In article <DASU.92Aug31231325@sscux1.ssc.gov>, dasu@sscux1.ssc.gov (Sridhara Dasu) writes:
- > History needs to know who all contributed to the work. Not just
- > who "wrote" the paper.
- >
- and
-
- > You should understand the nature of multi-"author" work before
- > inflicting your morals on them.
-
- For most of us, the problem is not with the idea of multiple-author
- papers, including those who never wrote a word of them, but in where
- to draw the line. Let me be more specific. I'm an astronomer, a theorist.
- When I read a list of authors for a theory paper I assume that everyone
- on that list contributed to the ideas being presented in the paper
- in some important way. Merely being present for the discussion doesn't
- cut it and I assume that other people feel the same way. I *do not*
- put my name on papers written by (for example) my postdoc unless
- I had some role in them. I feel that it doesn't matter that I wrote
- the grant that is supporting him. His papers will be included in
- my application for grant renewal. In my field, partial authorship on a
- paper means much more than having been a conduit for the money.
- It means having contributed to the *science*. For this reason the
- common practice of putting the name of a laboratory head on a paper
- (common in chemistry and medicine anyhow) makes my skin crawl.
- Intellectually I know that this is common practice, and the role of
- that particular `author' is understood by others in that field, but
- it feels deeply wrong to me. I think it encourages parasites.
-
- None of this is meant as a slap at observers, or HEP types, or anyone
- else who conducts experiments that rely on the expertise of many
- people. In that case all those people really are contributing to
- the science and deserve to have their names on the paper. It
- would be grossly unfair (for example) to insist that the people
- whose creativity made a particular observation possible should not
- share in the credit. I don't think that's what's being discussed here.
-
-
- --
- "Quis tamen tale studium, quo ad primam omnium rerum causam evehimur,
- tamquam inutile aut contemnendum detractare ac deprimere ausit?"-Bridel
- Ethan T. Vishniac, Dept. of Astronomy, The University of Texas at Austin
- Austin, Texas, 78712 ethan@astro.as.utexas.edu
-