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- From: srt@duke.cs.duke.edu (Stephen R. Tate)
- Newsgroups: sci.research
- Subject: Re: A few thoughts on Fabrikant.
- Message-ID: <715291799@pike.cs.duke.edu>
- Date: 31 Aug 92 20:10:01 GMT
- References: <1992Aug28.203848.29074@tc.cornell.edu> <715275094@pike.cs.duke.edu> <1992Aug31.170648.17228@tc.cornell.edu>
- Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.
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- In article <1992Aug31.170648.17228@tc.cornell.edu> bai@msiadmin.cit.cornell.edu (Dov Bai-MSI Visitor) writes:
- >In article <715275094@pike.cs.duke.edu> srt@duke.cs.duke.edu (Stephen R. Tate) writes:
- >>Your statements about the "goals of the University" are most interesting...
- >>How are the goals of any University furthered by introducing a personality
- >>that is harmful to the work going on there?
- >
- >You chose to omit the first part of my posting, in which I said that
- >what appear to some faculty as disruptive is actually constructive
- >to teaching+research, and it is often made by innovative individuals,
- >who are disliked by some faculty members. You did not counter my argument.
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- I'm trying to let this thread die, but I have to comment on this....
- Being disruptive is rarely constructive to teaching+research, except to
- the person who is being disruptive.... would you force a department
- to take someone on who will further their own research by disrupting
- the research of those that are already there? Why is that single individual
- more important than the department as a whole? Clearly, no single
- individual should be allowed to harm an entire department.
-
- Back to reality and what really happens: here at Duke (and most other
- places, I imagine), the "department approval" part of the tenure process
- is done by secret, unsigned ballot voting of the tenured faculty in
- the department. The faculty then could (conceivably) use whatever
- criteria they want to make their decision --- the decision can be appealed
- to the provost, but I believe that the department's decision is almost
- always honored except in odd circumstances.
-
- Again, the whole point is that the department should be able to choose
- people that work harmoniously with the department. The goal is to get
- work (research and teaching) done, and what better way to ensure this?
-
- --
- Steve Tate srt@cs.duke.edu | The reason why mathematics enjoys special esteem,
- Dept. of Computer Science | above all other sciences, is that its laws are
- Duke University | absolutely certain and indisputable, while those of all
- Durham, NC 27706 | other sciences are to some extent debatable. (Einstein)
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