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- From: bhjelle@carina.unm.edu
- Newsgroups: sci.research,sci.med
- Subject: Re: Medics as scientists ?
- Message-ID: <6phnsbm@lynx.unm.edu>
- Date: 31 Aug 92 13:49:48 GMT
- References: <28qpbz8c@csv.warwick.ac.uk> <56dnpxb@lynx.unm.edu> <30rpbfdh@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
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- In article <30rpbfdh@csv.warwick.ac.uk> csuah@warwick.ac.uk (~WISP at CU~) writes:
- >In article <56dnpxb@lynx.unm.edu> bhjelle@carina.unm.edu writes:
- >>>>
- >>>> Do you find that good doctors (medical doctors) make good researchers,
- >>>>or is it the case that good doctors and good researchers are mutually
- >>>>exclusive groups?
- >
- >[my stuff about the death of good minds...]
- >>This is a tired old canard. I suppose the best argument against
- >>this is the innumerable stellar scientists who happen to be MDs,
- >>including people like Dan Nathans, Harold Varmus, Hamilton Smith,
- >>Mike Bishop, etc, etc (if you don't know who these people
- >>are, check recent editions of Who's Who, or the roster of
- >>Nobel Prize winners).
- >
- >Come on! Even if you multiply that list by a hundred, you're still not talking
- >about 1% of the number of doctors, in the UK alone. You're trying to draw
- >conclusions from an insignificant sample. The *best* minds will out, no matter
- >what, but the vast majority of doctors, along with researchers are not the
- >best of minds. We can't all be in the top 1% of the top 1%...
-
- Eh? I don't believe I claimed that a sizable fraction of all
- physicians went on to be top scientists. I simply was making
- the point that medical training does not preclude a productive
- scientific career.
-
- If all physicians were scrambling to be scientists, who would
- take care of sick people?
-
- >>What always amazes me is the notion that the rote memorization
- >>required for medical school somehow robs one of the ability to
- >>have original thought.
- >
- >True, but when you use that mode of thought for several years of clinical
- >practise, it does damage. I hear this from other doctors, BTW, not from
- >outsiders...
-
- Yes, I would agree. If one wishes to be a funded and productive
- scientist, one should refrain from prolonged, full-time medical
- practice. There are only so many hours in the day, and you will
- definitely fall behind in scientific knowledge.
-
- >BTW, why does my post bother you so much?
- >
- It doesn't bother me at all. Why does *any* disagreement, however
- mild, from your party line seem to bother you so much?
-
- Brian
-