home *** CD-ROM | disk | FTP | other *** search
- Path: sparky!uunet!ogicse!mintaka.lcs.mit.edu!zurich.ai.mit.edu!ara
- From: ara@zurich.ai.mit.edu (Allan Adler)
- Newsgroups: sci.math
- Subject: Re: Proof of God's Existence
- Message-ID: <ARA.92Sep3133928@camelot.ai.mit.edu>
- Date: 3 Sep 92 18:39:28 GMT
- Article-I.D.: camelot.ARA.92Sep3133928
- References: <17ui6kINNsft@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> <Btw9nH.BIE@world.std.com>
- <1992Sep1.213206.18901@griffin.itc.gu.edu.au>
- <1992Sep2.141141.28788@dde.dk>
- Sender: news@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu
- Organization: M.I.T. Artificial Intelligence Lab.
- Lines: 56
- In-Reply-To: ct@dde.dk's message of 2 Sep 92 14:11:41 GMT
-
-
- I don't see why everyone is trying to prove the existence of God. I think
- the people of the world are virtually unanimous in the opinion that
- God does not exist. To see why this is so, let us merely assert, in addition
- to the mere use of the word "God", some property of God and ask if
- people believe that God exists and has that property and overwhelmingly
- the response will be no. For example, can you eat God? Some people think
- so but most don't. Can you have sex with God? Does God reside in
- a particular idol? Does God have any physical manifestations at all?
- Is there more than one God? What do they have in common that makes them
- God and why are their other characteristics irrelevant? Does God have
- a proper name that should be used to address God? What is it? Is God
- on call whenever some country wants to declare war on some other country?
- Does God care what people do? Is there something specific that God wants
- everyone to do? If so what is it? How does one know? What instruments are
- available to determine what God wants? For example, is it reliable
- to examine the spots on the gall bladders and livers or sacrificial animals?
- Is it reliable to ask someone who has been given a degree in theology by
- by an accredited institution of higher learning? Is it reliable to play with
- yarrow sticks? Is it reliable to ask a tv evangelist? Can you bribe God to
- want something else? Can you intimidate God by putting his idol out in
- the hot sun so he feels uncomfortable? Does God like you better if you
- slaughter animals or humans in sacrific to God? Does God want you to kill
- people who don't agree with you about what God is like? Does God agree
- with all of your prejudices about other ethnic groups, and if so please
- itemize? Does God care what you eat and if so please itemize? What does
- God think it is ok for you to have sex with and what does God think is
- hurkel? Does God want you to get married and if so to how many peopl
- and what ethnicity must they have? What does God want you to teach your
- children? Can a human become a God? Can a God become a human? Can a God
- die? When a God dies, does it go to heaven or hell and if so which
- heaven or hell does it go to?
- Once one tries to get specific about what exactly one is talking about
- when one talks about God, one finds that the majority of the world's
- population does not believe it. All that remains if one wants to assert
- the existence of something without specifying any properties is the
- vague feeling that something exists, a feeling utterly without content or
- meaning. And indeed something does exist: we exist. Without specifying
- the content, the fact that we exist shows that the vague feeling that something
- exists is true. But so what?
-
- Religion is an advacned delusional system. Throughout history people possessed
- of this delusion have thought it was an act of piety to kill others who
- possessed different delusions, or to persecute them in various ways.
- We like to think we are exalted in some way because we are smarter than
- most other animals, according to are own definitions. But our willingness
- to kill others in the name of religion is always there to remind us of
- our true nature.
-
- Actually, there is nothing special about religion in this connection. People
- are willing to kill each other over fairly arbitrary differences of all
- kinds, and each such distinction has at one time or another been
- the basis for violence.
-
- Allan Adler
- ara@altdorf.ai.mit.edu
-