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- From: platt@watson.ibm.com (Daniel E. Platt)
- Subject: Re: Godel and the US constitution
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- Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1992 13:41:07 GMT
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- In article <1992Sep1.203402.4257@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, regeorge@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert E George) writes:
- |> In article <1992Sep1.175844.16825@nas.nasa.gov> asimov@wk223.nas.nasa.gov (Dani
- |> el A. Asimov) writes:
- |> [deletions]
- |> >
- |> >Out of curiosity, does anyone know how Godel envisioned a
- |> >consitutional dictatorship possibly arising in the U.S. ???
- |> [deletions]
- |>
- |> I have no idea how Godel envisioned a dictatorship, but it is not very
- |> difficult to see how it could happen: any of the Bill of Rights can be
- |> repealed, just as Prohibition was repealed; terms could be extended
- |> indefinitely, the Supreme Court could be abolished, elections could be
- |> abolished, the veto repealed, et cetera. All that
- |> would be required would be a series of constitutional amendments, of which
- |> we have already had many. Each would require a 2/3 majority in both the
- |> Senate and the House, and control of 3/4 of the State legislatures. (Another
- |> route could be via the state convention method, or even the constitutional
- |> convention.) Gaining such majorities would not be easy, but it is not
- |> impossible either: the only action prohibited by the Constitution appears
- |> to be the abolition of equal representation in the Senate -- but note
- |> that an amendment could strip the Senate of any and all powers.
- |>
- |>
- |> So, have a nice day!
- |>
- |> Robert George
- |> (speaking only for myself)
- |>
- |> "The very essence of individual freedom is equal justice under a rule of
- |> law, a law to which every man shall be subject and which no executive
- |> can modify."
- |> Senator Robert Taft , March 11, 1944
-
- Taft was wrong. Abraham Lincoln, under the state of emergency, revoked the
- writ of habeas corpus, effectively making it possible to imprison people
- indefinitely only upon an accusation. The powers associated with a state of
- emergency might be adequate to keep a sufficiently popular president in
- office effectively as a dictator. It was through the state-of-emergency
- mechanisms in the German government that Hitler obtained his power.
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- Dan
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