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- From: columbus@strident.think.com (Michael Weiss)
- Newsgroups: sci.math
- Subject: Re: Parallel axiom.
- Date: 27 Aug 92 10:53:25
- Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
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- References: <1992Aug25.170135.504@csc.canterbury.ac.nz>
- <1992Aug27.115903.10390@waikato.ac.nz>
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- In-reply-to: maj@waikato.ac.nz's message of 26 Aug 92 23:59:03 GMT
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- In article <1992Aug27.115903.10390@waikato.ac.nz> maj@waikato.ac.nz writes:
-
- I have always felt that Euclid's form is superior because it contains
- no mention of the mysterious undefined concept 'parallel'. And how
- are we supposed to have any intuition of what 'parallel' means in the
- various possible geometries that may exist without the axiom. I don't
- think Playfairs Axiom plays fair in the least. It has always struck
- me as question begging.
-
- --
- Murray A. Jorgensen [ maj@waikato.ac.nz ] University of Waikato
- Department of Mathematics and Statistics Hamilton, New Zealand
-
- Definition: two lines are parallel if they have no points in common.
- What's mysterious about that?
-
- If you want to be really picky, or are a fan of first order logic, consider
- a theory containing unary predicates "point(x)" and "line(x)", and a binary
- predicate "on(x,y)", which I will write in the infix form "x on y". Then
- the parallel predicate is defined:
-
- def
- x || y === line(x) and line(y) and not (exists z)[point(z) and z on x
- and z on y]
-
-
- Incidentally, I am fairly sure that Playfair was not the first to introduce
- "Playfair's" form of the parallel postulate, though I don't remember
- offhand who was.
-
- So far as intuition goes, are you familiar with Poincare's model of the
- non-euclidean plane? I grant you that a purely axiomatic treatment is apt
- to prove a bit unsatisfying, although that's all that Bolyai had to work
- with.
-