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- From: steiny@steiny.com (Don Steiny)
- Newsgroups: sci.econ
- Subject: Re: Business Cycles
- Message-ID: <113@steiny.com>
- Date: 29 Aug 92 16:55:23 GMT
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- idfriedm@hertz.uwaterloo.ca (id friedman) writes:
-
- >In Canada, and to a lower extent in the U.S, inflation has stabilized at levels
- >not seen since the late 1960's. Do economists predict that these levels will
- >stay put for a period of a few years? If so, can we expect interest rates
- >to remain fairly low ( Even though the ** real Interest rate ** is not lower
- >than it was before)?
-
- In The Economist they have been talking about the effects of low
- inflation. They seem to feel that the causes of inflation are understood
- and that central banks are committed to stopping inflation (though they
- are concerned about the US). If the US decides to acutally pay off
- its debt instead of inflating it away, then I think we can look for
- decades of low or no inflation. According to The Economist, England
- went for hundreds of years with no inflation at all and high inflation
- has been the rule for just the last few decades.
-
- As for interest rates, there are long term and short term rates.
- The government can lower short term rates, which are the rates that banks
- charge each other for short term loans, notably the central banks. Long
- term rates are the interest rates investors require on debt that they buy.
- If you are a government, a corporation, or whatever and you need money you
- can borrow money by selling bonds. Bonds pay interest. That interest
- rate has to be such that when you have paid me back, I make a profit.
- If there is high inflation and the value of money decreases year to year,
- I need to charge you an interest rate that takes that into acount. Thus
- long term interest rates can be computed by the (very rough) formula:
-
- return on investment + expected inflation
-
- If the investor did not get compensated for inflation, he or she might
- loose money in the long term because the dollars used to pay back the
- debt would be worth less that the dollars loaned in the first place.
-
- Long term rates are high right now because investors expect inflation.
- That is because in the past few decades there has been high inflation and, in
- fact, the inflation was so high in the '70s that investors lost money and
- are being cautious now.
-
- If the US government makes some credible effort to reduce the debt and
- therefore indicates to investors that it is not going to use inflation
- as a means to repay the debt, then I would expect to see long term rates
- drop by a considerable amount. The EEC has demonstrated a very hawkish
- position on and inflation, and our Federal Reserve has too. Central banks
- are actually lowering inflation and as autonomous non-political entities
- they can be expected to continue to do so. Let's keep our fingers crosses.
-
-
- >I read a very good book on investing, Wall Street, etc.. called " A Random Walk
- >Down Wall Street" by a Princeton finance prof. The book is well documented.
- >Has anybody heard of major objections to the book? DO people share my opinion
- >about it?
-
- I read a highly favorable review in The Economist. What is your
- opinion? The Economist and the Wall Street Journal have said for years
- that the stock market is a gambling game.
-
-
- -don
-
- PS: The Economist is a 150 year old Bristish magazine that is totally
- independent. It is incredibly well written, its writing standard is
- very high. It covers news, arts, science, as well as finance, business.
- Besides that it often has lessons on Economics, Management, or other
- interesting topics. It is a weekly. I canceled Time, Newsweek, and so on
- because the Economist is 100 times as good. People accuse it of being
- conservative, but I think it is more dialectic. They seem to generally
- support Clinton over Bush, they favor the legalization of drugs, they are big
- on the carbon tax, all positions that in the US are considered slightly to very
- left-of-center. They will often have articles with opposing points of
- view without explaination. In a typical US magazine or TV new show,
- they will say: "And now for two opposing points of view." In The Economist
- they will just merrily print an article with one point-of-view one week and
- another the next (The Wall Street Journal does this in their Editorials
- section). The Economist is often funny, and has no respect for Economists.
- --
- Don Steiny
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