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- From: mcdonald@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (J. D. McDonald)
- Subject: Re: Telescope question
- References: <1700@shaman.wv.tek.com> <1992Sep3.034229.13646@athena.cs.uga.edu> <168576E18.MEDELMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu>
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- Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:06:09 GMT
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- In article <168576E18.MEDELMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu> MEDELMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu (Michael Edelman) writes:
-
- >In article <1992Sep3.034229.13646@athena.cs.uga.edu>
- >mcovingt@athena.cs.uga.edu (Michael A. Covington) writes:
- > [...]
- >>There is an old piece of folklore that says a 3-inch refractor is equal to
- >>a 6-inch reflector. It's late 19th century folklore, from the days of
- >>silvered mirrors with low reflectivity.
- >>
- equating a 3-inch refractor to a 6-inch reflector in this day
- >>and age is a bit excessive. I'd think the comparison is more like 5-inch
- >>versus 6-inch.
-
- The physics of it ... backed up by serious experimentation on my part...
- says that a perfect obstructed system (refractor or reflector, it of
- course does not matter) will be unequivocally better than an unobstructed
- system whose diameter equals (outer diameter of obstructed system -
- diameter of obstruction). An obstructed system will appear, looking at
- planets, roughly equal to an unobstructed system with diameter
- (diameter of obstructed system - diameter of obstruction/2).
-
- >>
- >>
- >From what I've read and seen in the past year, I'd add a few comments to
- >that. One, the *average* commercial newtonian has a pretty poorly figured
- >mirror, adding to the problem. And the typical commercial schmidt-cassegrain
- >has a much worse image,
-
- However, Meade guarantees "user satisfaction" and their add claims
- are pretty severly restrictive. They can indeed make SCTs that are 1/10
- wave. I've got one, it performs wonderfully.
-
- >compounded by poor baffling
- The baffeling in Meades is perfect, geometrically, and very well
- blackened indeed.
-
- >and the fact that the
- >corrector plate is only an approximation of the correct figure.
-
- I don't know what you mean by this... my scope must have a corrector
- plate that is right, because it is 1/10 wave. Do you mean that it
- has the "high zone" in a place that causes more than the minimum chromatic
- aberration? My scope seems to have titally negligible chromatic
- aberrration.
-
- >It's
- >certainly possible to build compound reflecting telescopes that outperform
- >most achromats- cf Questar, for one.
- Not really. An 8 inch Questar would be inferior to an 8 inch Meade
- or Celestron because of the dramatically worse chromatic aberration
- in the Maksutov.
-
-
- >However....a properly figured newtonian of long focus (f/8+) with a small
- >secondary can rival a refractor for contrast and resolution. The major
- >mass-market manufacturers don't make such a telescope. Pity.
-
- The reason for that is that no one would buy them. Long focal length
- implies mounting problems .... and if you can mount a 6 inch f/8,
- you can equally mount an 8" f/6 or 10 inch f/5, which will,
- with good figure, annihilate the performance of the 6 inch. There is
- no substitute for aperture.
-
- Doug McDonald
-