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- From: pad@galaxy.nsc.com (Paul Denny x8349)
- Newsgroups: rec.models.rc
- Subject: Re: Submarines anyone?
- Message-ID: <1992Sep3.230617.6710@voder.nsc.com>
- Date: 3 Sep 92 23:06:17 GMT
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- In article <1992Sep2.155751.12404@linus.mitre.org>, m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White) writes:
- > Bob Lawrence writes:
- > > ...I yearn for an RC submarine.
- >
- > Several are available, advertised in all the rc mags. The biggest one is
- > around 6 ft, and has working balast tanks.
- >
- It may be worth finding out a bit about radio attenuation by water before you
- embark on your first dive. I understand that to communicate with real submarines
- requires a very low frequency carrier. The attenuation will increase with frequency
- and water conductivity (salinity) due to the skin effect. The electromagnetic field
- will decay exponentially to a value of 1/e (2.718) of its value at the surface at
- the skin depth defined by ;
-
- d = (1/u.pi.f.s)
- where u=permeability of water (I think this is pretty close to permeability of free space)
- f=frequency (about 72MHz)
- s=conductivity of water (ranges from 2E-4 in distilled water to 5 in sea water)
-
- This gives skin depths ranging from 17 metres to 1mm
- Unless you are at the brewster angle you will also get reflection at the air water
- interface as well.
-
- You might want to get a decent pair of polaroid sunglasses too 8-)
-