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- From: chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach)
- Newsgroups: misc.writing
- Subject: Re: Language Lists (was Re: Work in Progress: Proposal
- Message-ID: <71631@apple.Apple.COM>
- Date: 25 Aug 92 16:04:27 GMT
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- palmer@cco.caltech.edu (David Palmer) writes:
-
- >I like what Gene Wolfe does in his 'Book of the New Sun' (read it!).
-
- So do I. Unfortunately, I don't have Gene's command of language, nor do I
- have the years of research and polishing the material he had (if you want to
- get a feel for just how much work he did making those books feel effortless,
- track down a copy of CASTLE OF THE OTTER, either in the (very expensive and
- rare) Zeising Brothers edition, the not so expensive SF Book Club edition,
- or in the upcoming Tor release (it'll be an omnibus edition combined with
- some other shorter works of his).
-
- Much as I like it, though, I think the New Sun books are as much as exercise
- in "language as literature" as they are novels, and that's not really the
- intent of my writing at this point. Those books are also fairly tough to get
- involved in because of the language, and I know a number of people who don't
- like them because of it. They're not as accessible to the less-advanced
- reader who enjoys language for its own sake.
-
- (note, before you yell at me. This is not a criticism. I like them just
- the way they are. I've got a couple of volumes that Gene autographed
- for me at Conspiracy that I cherish, and every so often I nudge him to
- write something for OtherRealms, which so far he's successfully
- avoided. Sigh. But they're a style of book that'd be a very tough sell
- for a new author (IMHO), not to mention that it's an exceptionally difficult
- writing style to do correctly, much less successfully. Maybe when I have
- half a dozen books under my belt and have a better feel for the process)
-
-
- >As for forks, who uses forks? They are a recent invention:
-
- Very true. It's just an example. (my people use knives and fingers, just
- like people did up until the last few hundred years)
-
- >Of course, many of us are not Gene Wolfe, and don't know English
- >as well as he does. Here's a tip from the White Queen (?)--If
- >you don't know the English for something, say it in French.
-
- That technique makes me crazy, because it tends to come across as the author
- trying to blow one past the reader so the reader doesn't figure out he's
- being spoofed. I read a mystery by, I believe, Dorothy Sayers many years ago
- where she gave out a key clue to the readers IN LATIN. Without it, any
- chance of figuring out what was going on was hopeless. To me, that sort of
- stuff is a bad cheat, and I'm out to entertain the readers, not cheat them.
-
- (which is not to say you can't use this stuff as an etymological background
- here and there, but I don't want to depend on it).
-
-
- --
- Chuq "IMHO" Von Rospach, ESD Support & Training (DAL/AUX) =+= Member, SFWA
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- A real SF writur with stories in ALTERNATE KENNEDYS and THE
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-
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