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- From: saslpo@stevens.unx.sas.com (Len Olszewski)
- Newsgroups: misc.writing
- Subject: Re: Language Lists (was Re: Work in Progress: Proposal
- Keywords: Language, Linguistics, etc
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- Date: 25 Aug 92 16:53:07 GMT
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- In article <1992Aug25.133634.10277@nocusuhs.nnmc.navy.mil>, yoshi@nocusuhs.nnmc.navy.mil (D M Yoshikami) writes:
- |> In article <71572@apple.Apple.COM> chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) writes:
- |> >Actually, this brings up something I've been grappling with. The advantages
- |> >and disadvantages of building a custom language.
- |>
- |> In my younger days, I did something like this, not only compiling a
- |> vocabulary (which a lot of was swiped from other languages and subjected to some
- |> sound changes), but also a writing system and a pretty obnoxious grammar (taken
- |> from the quirks of the various languages I learned). Not satisfied with this,
- |> I wound up putting together some of the closely related languages and dialects,
- |> the Proto- language, much like what the Linguists have done for Indo-European.
- |> Although the exercise was a lot of fun (and I had fun playing with fonts on the
- |> Macintosh), I found using it was cumbersome, and I wound up only using it for
- |> colourful effects.
-
- [delted the rest]
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- Actually, Brian Aldiss wrote about a people called the "Cameroi" about
- 15 or 20 years ago. He wrote a short story called "Confluence" which
- was nothing more than an abridged dictionary of key terms in their
- language. The short story showed up in many of the "year's best"
- collections, as I recall, but I don't know if it won any awards. You
- may want to check it out as an example of how to do something like this
- the "right" way (or *a* right way, anyway, IMHO). The dictionary in
- "Confluence" is both thought provoking and hilarious at the same time.
-
- Aldiss wrote a number of other "Cameroi" stories (if memory serves)
- during this period, but as I recall, he rarely used the words and phrases
- he took such pains to create in "Confluence". Draw your own conclusions.
-
- I guess Frank Herbert did this for the _Dune_ series too. That device
- was the reason that I stopped reading that particular series about a
- hundred pages into the first book. No accounting for taste, I suppose.
-
- Please feel free to correct any errors - it's been a long time since I
- read any of the materials to which this posting refers.
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