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- From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
- Subject: Re: Flash Cards
- Message-ID: <w4cns9n.payner@netcom.com>
- Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 21:38:44 GMT
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- References: <1992Aug23.050415.14904@uwm.edu> <fr-n==q.payner@netcom.com> <1992Aug27.171032.14617@uwm.edu>
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- In article <1992Aug27.171032.14617@uwm.edu> anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber) writes:
- >In article <fr-n==q.payner@netcom.com> payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne) writes:
- >
- >>This? Flash EPROM sounds interesting, but it still seems to me that
- >>the voltage and power requirements to -write- to it are far above the
- >>power requirements for a small drive. It would not seem that the present
- >>FLASH EPROM would be a replacement for current small HD's. But I think
- >>it still would be usefull.
- >
- >Voltage isn't the same as power.
-
- Agreed, but voltages above that provided by the batteries requires
- a DC-DC converted, which sucks power as well. So for portable devices,
- power delivered will not equal power consumed for voltages above the
- battery voltage.
-
- > The 4MB card consumes 0.15 watts
- >active, and 0.04 watts standby.
-
- By active, do you mean reading, writing, or both?
-
- > The main problems with Flash EPROM are
- >that it takes on the average 2 seconds to erase a 256KB zone.
-
- Can several zones be erased simultaneously? Does this increase power
- consumption? And how does the file system do small writes without
- erasing other files? Does it require 256K of cache, and if so will
- this not increase write times by the amount needed to load/read the
- cache?
-
- > The
- >entire zone must be erased. Once erased, writes take 10us per byte and
- >reads are 200ns maximum, data transfer at 8MB/s. The card can be shut
- >down between accesses so it takes no power, then be instantly powered
- >back up. A disk drive will take a few seconds just to spin up. Disk
- >drives also have head and rotational latency. Note that all the figures
- >I have are for 4MB cards, 20MB cards may differ significantly.
-
- Hopefully by being improved. :^)
-
- >I could certainly see a 20MB Flash card replacing a Kittyhawk or
- >similar drive in at least some applications. Simply by size and power
- >consumption, two or more 20MB cards would fit where only one hard drive
- >would. They may end up more complementary that competitive however.
- >Even a drive as small as the Kittyhawk could probably have a few
- >megabytes of Flash memory for use as cache. This could give the low
- >power and speed of Flash with the low cost of disk.
- >
- >--
- ><-:(= Anthony Stieber anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu uwm!uwmcsd4!anthony
- >
-
- Rich
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- payner@netcom.com
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