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- From: deanc@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Dean Cashen)
- Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 00:52:46 GMT
- Subject: Re: Zeos (and others) general flame
- Message-ID: <5500021@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com>
- Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise, ID
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- Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
- References: <GERRY.92Aug24171444@onion.cmu.edu>
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- In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware / gerry@cmu.edu (Gerry Roston):
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- [Text deleted]
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- > Basically, Zeos is over priced, has slimey ads and I will never buy
- > from them.
- >
- > [Yeah, flame me back Mr Zeos...]
-
- I'm not Mr. Zeos. But that's okay, this isn't a flame.
-
- I agree with the argument that Zeos boasts ads with low prices, but
- that those prices reflect systems that aren't reasonably configured.
- (In fact, I think it's against the law in some sections of No. Cal to
- sell a 486 system with a 40MB disk or less. :-) ). I don't think
- they should do this. It's misleading, of course.
-
- But, perusing through notes, I find comments about pricing to be
- singular in their arguments: "Too High." Little attention, in
- my opinion, is given to the product itself beyond how many MB
- it has, and what the CPU is. That's not a fair comparision for
- many. I've purchased computers from "good" vendors, and from
- "bad" ones. Generally, the "bad" ones gave me the best prices,
- but the product lacked. Or, the service lacked. Or, they just
- went out of business shortly afterward. The "good" ones, again,
- generally, cost me a bit more. But, they answer their phones.
- Their products arrived as advertised (how may times have you
- read gripes on notes about a vendor swapping parts?). The
- products are put together well, the cases are solid, the
- PC boards have all the screws holding them in place, the parts
- are name brand, the F/W revs are up-to-date. They throw in
- such "niceties" as manuals (written in your native tongue),
- keys that fit the locks, and power cords and cables. They use
- fans in their cases (one vendor said they didn't need to put
- fans in because there was one in the power supply). The
- colors match. The PC *works*. That's a nice touch. We all
- know a quality product when we see or use one. You can buy a
- mouse for $10 if you want, but most spend $100 or so on a Microsoft
- mouse. Quality.
-
- I could go on, but the point is: These "extra" things cost.
- Quality costs. Service & support cost. Having someone answer
- the phone in a coherent, intelligent manner costs.
-
- Zeos (I've dealt with them, and was impressed) provides pretty darn
- good support. And their products are of good quality. Sure, their
- prices don't beat many of the companies advertising in the back of
- Computer Shopper. But, you don't expect them to, do you?
-
- Price isn't everything when buying a PC. If it were, quality and the
- company behind it wouldn't matter. But, to a lot of people, they
- DO matter. They probably matter to you too: when you buy a PC, do you
- *plan* on it breaking or being incompatible? Do you *expect* the
- vendor to shut down right after you bought it from them, or to hang
- up on you when you call? No. As with a car, you just don't expect
- it to break or be unreliable. And, you expect the dealer to be around
- if you need them. If you don't expect it to happen, you shouldn't
- expect it to come for free. It isn't fair to belittle a vendor
- for charging more when they give more. And again, "more" shouldn't
- be defined solely in terms of chip type and MB.
-
- $soapbox off$
-
-
- Dean Cashen
- -- Boise
-
- --------<disclaimer>----------
- HP and I share some views, but
- the ones above are all mine...
-