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- From: rrd@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ray Depew)
- Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:43:15 GMT
- Subject: Re: External input to HP48 (question)
- Message-ID: <112150095@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>
- Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
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- Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
- References: <4894@sumax.seattleu.edu>
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- > I saw your post regarding cable problems in comp.sys.palmtops. In it you
- > mentioned a data acquisition module which could be used with a HP48SX?
- > If its not too much trouble I'd love to hear some details about this module
- > as it sounds like just the thing I've been looking for. Any info at
- > all will be greatly appreciated.
- >
- > regards.
- >
- > <name deleted>
-
- Sure, glad to oblige.
-
- I got to do beta testing on the HP48, and one of the things I tested was the
- grunt-level user commands in the I/O menu. I was a process engineer at the
- time, and was interested in using the 48 to monitor plating tanks, developer
- baths and other such goodies.
-
- At the same time, I was building a ductility tester using an HP9816 as a
- controller, and I was looking for some small and cheap RS-232 data acquisition
- hardware. My search led me to a collection of blue hexagons, each about the
- size of a hockey puck, manufactured by DGH in New Hampshire, and OEM'ed by
- Omega Engineering and MetraByte Corp. (MetraByte no longer carries them).
-
- Each hexagon is a self-contained signal-conditioning module, consisting of
- an ADC chip, a UART, an EEPROM and some custom stuff. It communicates
- to the outside world via RS-232, RS-422 or RS-485 (the latter two are
- variations on the 232 standard). I was using RS-485 so I could connect the
- modules in parallel, but DGH designed the modules so that the RS-232 ones
- could be connected daisy-chain style, and only use one serial port on your
- controller. It's what HPIL should have been, and a very good idea.
-
- I hooked my RS-485 modules up to a 232/485 converter, and from there to my
- HP48SX. Everything worked great. The guys in Calculator Marketing bought one
- to play with (cost is $200 - $250 each), but they couldn't make it work. Two
- problems:
-
- 1) All UART settings are contained in an EEPROM in the module. The module
- comes from the factory preset to 300 baud. The 48 doesn't go down to 300
- baud, so you have to use another computer to set the module for HP48SX
- communications.
-
- 2) The module won't recognize a signal strength of less than 5.0 volts (I
- think), and the 48 tramsits at 4.2 volts. We had to build a power booster
- to get the two units to talk to each other. In fact, Joel Kolstad (of
- the Internet) and I were working on a teeny battery-powered booster, but
- then I moved from Oregon to Colorado, and I haven't had time to work on
- it since then.
-
- An alternative is to buy a commercial RS-232 buffer/repeater from Omega or
- DGH or elsewhere. Retail cost is $99. Works fine.
-
- In spite of these two problems, I still strongly recommend these devices for
- data acquisition with either the 48 or the 95. I would suggest that you call
- or write DGH directly (tell them I sent you). Here are phone #'s, etc.
-
-
-
- DGH Corporation
- P.O. Box 5638
- Manchester, NH 03108
-
- (603)622-0452
-
- Omega Engineering, Inc.
- P.O. Box 2284
- Stamford, CT 06906
-
- (800)826-6342 sales
- (800)872-9436 engineering and technical assistance
- (203)359-7874 to order a set of Omega catalogs
-
-
- If you have any other questions, feel free to write me again. I won't
- guarantee a speedy reply, but I'll get back to you eventually.
-
- --
- Regards
- Ray Depew
- Hewlett Packard ICBD, Fort Collins, CO
- rrd@hpfitst1.fc.hp.com
-
-