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- From: baffoni@aludra.usc.edu (Juxtaposer)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
- Subject: Re: GEM.. what needs to be fixed, and soon!
- Date: 28 Aug 1992 13:23:59 -0700
- Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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- References: <1992Aug27.100551.4716@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk> <MebEmeK00awP4Wh0tl@andrew.cmu.edu> <1992Aug28.095413.26495@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk>
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- In article <1992Aug28.095413.26495@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk> ucacmsu@ucl.ac.uk (Mr Stephen R Usher) writes:
- >In article <MebEmeK00awP4Wh0tl@andrew.cmu.edu> sm86+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stefan Monnier) writes:
- [stuff deleted]
- >>> (1) Response time for mouse button presses.
- >>
- >>> Has anyone noticed that it takes about a second for a mouse press to
- >>> be acted upon under GEM? This delay is the same on the TT as on the ST. This
- >>> has put off a large number of people when I've tried to promote the ST/TT
- >>> for general use. It can be a right pain when you click on one item, move the
- >>> mouse and the system highlights the one your mouse just passed over.
- [responses deleted]
-
- I don't know if I am addressing the problem you describe, but doesn't
- the button sensitivity section of the General.cpx control in Xcontrol panel
- take care of that? You know, set it to faster response?
-
- >>> (3) GDOS is an optional extra.
- >>
- >>> In these days any GUI-frontend without a built in scalable font
- >>> generator is doomed. In my opinion a GDOS derivative (scalable font version)
- >>> should be included IN ROM along with a minimum of fonts (eg Times Roman,
- >>> Helvetica etc).
- >>
- >>Why in ROM in these days (just think of Macs, OS/2, Windows, Unix, etc..) ?
- >>I personnally think that much more of the OS should come on disk ! (for
- >>faster and easier updates)
- >
- >It should be on ROM so that the innocent new users need not know anything to
- >start playing.. ie Buy machine, install word precessor using manual to tell
- >them what to do, run word processor... lovely fonts.
- >OK, if you want it upgradable, you buy the upgrade which just patches over
- >the old version, just like official Atari patches do now!
-
- Thats a nice idea but! it is not very efficient. Remember ROM space
- is pretty expensive: Monetarily, it costs more to put it in ROM, especially
- since a "few basic fonts" are more than likely to go over 512k - space that
- just isn't in the (I believe) 1MB ROM space (might be less); Design wise,
- if you insist on putting it with the rest of the system code, you might be
- looking at a space-squeeze, so if the fonts go in, something will have to
- come out: Do you want to lose a)IDE/SCSI capability? b) MULTI-tasking?
- c) GUI (3d, or whatever) ? - Whatever you pick, you are going to lose - just
- load them in RAM and forget it. Besides, that way you only need load the
- fonts you want, not what are just standard. However, they could make an easier
- method of loading fonts (unless FSM/FONTGDOS is as simple as put font program
- in /auto, run font setup, select fonts to load (that should come on disk with
- system for basic fonts), never have to load those fonts again (either they
- are loaded onto floppy for those w/out HDs, or are loaded onto the HD and
- never be reloaded)).
-
- [much stuff deleted]
-
- -Mike
-
-