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- From: ung@felix.filenet.com (Bill Ung)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
- Subject: Re: The Perennial Piracy Debate (was Re: Bilestoad)
- Message-ID: <19776@fritz.filenet.com>
- Date: 27 Aug 92 19:57:31 GMT
- References: <15cv1aINN1md@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <!frms1j.payner@netcom.com> <19474@fritz.filenet.com> <m#4m!3l.payner@netcom.com>
- Reply-To: ung@fritz.filenet.com (Bill Ung)
- Organization: FileNet Corp., Costa Mesa, CA
- Lines: 92
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- In article <m#4m!3l.payner@netcom.com> payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne) writes:
- |In article <19474@fritz.filenet.com> ung@fritz.filenet.com (Bill Ung) writes:
- ||In article <!frms1j.payner@netcom.com> payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne) writes:
- |||In article <15cv1aINN1md@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (tuu) writes:
- ||||
- ||||In article <avnmy+_.payner@netcom.com> payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne) writes:
- ||||}It's simple, but absolutely wrong as stated. I use some freeware that
- ||||}I have not paid for, and I have committed no crime. I have much software
- ||||}that I have written for my own use, who the hell are you to tell me
- ||||}that it is a crime to use it?
- ||||
- |||| You know, you are really off the deep end.. You're being
- ||||semantically picky, when you should know very well what Jawaid was talking
- ||||about.
- ||||
- |||| Of COURSE freeware and software that you've written are legal to
- ||||use. Don't be a bonehead.
- |||
- |||I may be a bonehead, but I can read. You omitted the text where Jawaid
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^(see below)
- |||clearly said that if you did not -pay- for the software you are committing
- |||a crime. I said that it's absolutely wrong as stated, and it is.
- ||
- ||No, it is not. FREEWARE is paid for. The price tag is $0.00, paid in
- ||full upon receipt. Software you have written you've paid for in terms
- ||of time and effort. You can set the price tag at $0.00 or $1000.00, in
- ||either case, I doubt you'll have a problem paying yourself whatever
- ||price tag you choose ... and if you do, well, that probably belongs in
- ||some psychotherapy newsgroup. So therefore, in both cases, the software
- ||IS paid for. Just for the record, I'll have to agree that being a
- ||bonehead is stupid. Argue intelligently and don't waste bandwidth on
- ||things like picky semantics.
- |
- |You can post the above twaddle and complain that I am being picky about
- |semantics in the same sentence? You pay nothing for freeware, if you
- |pay, it ain't free. And your hypocrisy is showing.
-
- All I'm saying is if something is free, then I consider it automatically
- paid for. You did pay the full 0 dollars and 00 cents upon receipt, did
- you not? Straight and simple logic: If $paid (0.00) == $owed (0.00)
- then paid_for = TRUE. Heck, you even paid for the sales tax (also $0.00).
- Also note that nobody would be quite this picky about semantics if you
- weren't in the first place. Since you started in on it, we all have the
- right to a rebuttal.
-
- |||I'd
- |||rather be a bonehead that have a reading problem and be quoting impaired.
- ||
- ||Perhaps he was saving bandwidth? I'll agree, he probably should have
- ||quoted it though.
- ||
- |||And BTW, I find your bonehead assertion rather a personal attack.
- ||
- ||But not undeserved?
- |
- |Completely, absolutely, 100% undeserved. Next...
-
- Difference of opinion. Next...
-
- |||Add in also that many have such strong personal feelings that at the
- |||first hint of piracy, they froth at the eyes and cannot read straight.
- |||And that others must just jump in to make unwarrented personal attacks.
- ||
- ||You yourself agreed that you are a bonehead. That doesn't make it
- ||unwarranted (note spelling), in fact, just the opposite.
- |
- |You may be picky, but you are again wrong. I never admitted that I was
- |a bonehead, go back and reread.
-
- A quote from you (also see above): "I may be a bonehead, but I can read"
-
- Sounds like an admission to me.
-
- |And is not there a rule that the first
- |person to complain about spelling errors automatically loses the debate?
-
- Hah! You've gotta be kidding. If you can't win your debates by your
- arguements, why bother having them? That's about the stupidest rules
- I've ever heard of. "Oh, but I won because he complained about my
- spelling!!!" ... yeah, right.
-
- |||Rich
- |||payner@netcom.com
- ||
- ||Bill Ung
- || ung@filenet.com
- |
- |Rich again
-
- Bill Ung
- ung@filenet.com
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