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- Subject: Re: OctaMEDProV3
- Message-ID: <92245.093021M-WHIT2@UMINN1.BITNET>
- From: Michael Whitten <M-WHIT2@UMINN1.BITNET>
- Date: Tuesday, 1 Sep 1992 09:30:21 CST
- References: <92244.090057M-WHIT2@UMINN1.BITNET><1992Sep1.110719.24227@cs.ruu.nl>
- Organization: University of Minnesota - Computer & Information Services
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- On 9/1/92, clldomps@cs.ruu.nl (Louis van Dompselaar) replied:
-
- >In <92244.090057M-WHIT2@UMINN1.BITNET> Michael Whitten <M-WHIT2@UMINN1.BITNET>
- >writes:
- >
- >>>1. OMEDPro will not save all the instruments I load into it. It takes the
- >>> liberty of leaving out all the unused instruments when you go to save
- >>> the song you're working on. This means I have to either reload all the
- >>> instruments I ment to use, or use the first block to enter a note from
- >>> all 64 instruments to make OMEDPro think I'm using them.
- >>
- >>Okay, it's from the original-original article, but I will comment
- >anyway. What's the use of having sounds in MED when you don't use
- >them? It's silly. If you are a genuine composer, you'll decide what
- >sounds to use later on, anyway. You'll first need a tune that uses
- >the sounds. So, when you've got the tune, MED won't remove the sounds.
- >It's easy.
- >
- >>> now I have to go back and change it in my songs.
- >>
- >You don't HAVE to use OMEDpro...
- >
- >>>3. OMEDPro, of all versions, did not come with instructions. Lucky for me,
- >>
- >That's because it's not PD.
- >
- >>The more I use this software, the more disappointed and frustrated I get.
- >>All the things Jason pointed out are true. I have my own compatibility gripes
- >>with OMED3, too. The program is supposed to be able to save in ST/NT mod
- >>format - it will not; in fact, its supposed to be able to save in all of
- >
- >You didn't try did you? I use OMEDPro to save ST/NT mods quite happily.
- >It can't save older MED versions, true, but then again, who needs
- >old file formats? It can't save C64 files, it can't save PC/XT files.
- >All of these would have use for SOMEONE out there, but Teijo thought it
- >wise to be upward compatible, not downward, as is generally the idea
- >of upgrading. Ever seen a WordPerfect 5.1 that saves files in WP 2.0
- >format? It's silly.
- >
- >>only those with OctaMEDv3 can hear it? Ahhhh, well there's the freely-
- >>distributable OctaMEDPlayerV3, right? Wrong! While OMED3 plays what I wrote
- >>just fine......its own player cannot! Nice going, Amiganuts! The player
- >
- >The player is fine too, plays everything OMEDPro can play. Maybe your
- >version of OMEDPro and player are messed up somehow?
- >
- >>program screws up the octaves, and I suspect it is the extra 2 octave ability
- >
- >It's octave range is extended to 10, if you've looked at the Edit menu.
- >So that's 5 extra octaves. (MIDI mode)
- >
- >>As much as I admire Teijo Kinnunnen and MED, I have to question the more-
- >>esoteric-features for less-compatibility direction he has chosen. He seems
- >>to pride himself on adding newer and newer features to his music editor
- >>programming, but why bother if the already in-place Save features don't work?
- >>
- >Save function are OK, was long as you don't want things like mentioned
- >above. About the features, why are they esoteric? I find the MIDI panel
- >the least he could do, I even have some ideas on further enhancements.
- >In fact, if there are editors that DON'T allow any number of features
- >that OMEDPro offers, I don't know how I should use MIDI with them.
- >True, the syntheditor might be removed, I don't use it that much, but
- >then again, there might be some additions to the sample editor.
- >
- >Louis
- >a happy OctaMEDPro user.
-
- Louis....don't make me come over there. The tone of your comments implies
- that I'm just making this stuff up. Things happened and I related them;
- and you deny they happened. Are you running for election of something?
- Briefly, I'll go over this again: I wrote a mod in OMEDPro3; it wouldn't
- save in ST/NT format, ie, NO ST/NT tracker could play it, in fact, it
- took the 4-octave sample and reduced it to only the 1st octave; there were
- NO OMEDPro3-only tricks in this module! Now read this part again slowly:
- OMEDPro3 plays the mod just the way I wrote it while OMEDProPlayer3 DOES
- NOT! Since there aren't any, I don't have a ton of docs that qualify
- what OMEDPRO3 and its player are or aren't able to do. Honest! Louis!...
- this happened even though you say it didn't. Hmmm, there may a job for you
- at MicroIllusions' customer service should you decide to ever work here.
- <X>
- ps: I'll ftp the mod to your favorite site, but you better be prepared to
- post an apology for the indignant tone of your tome.
-